LTscale question...

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Cory D. Hislop, May 18, 2004.

  1. can you have different lt scales in different view ports???

    I have everything in my drawing drawn at full scale, (details and plans) so
    I can't have one ltscale for the all the layouts... if I could make one
    view port with an ltscale of 1.000 and another view port at 12.000 lt scale
    it would be great.... can this be done?
     
    Cory D. Hislop, May 18, 2004
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  2. Cory D. Hislop

    Matt Guest

    Yes. Make your ltscale:1, psltscale: 1, and your viewports at different
    scales will display correctly.

    Matt
     
    Matt, May 18, 2004
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  3. so after my psltscale is at 1. how do i change one viewport's ltscale??
     
    Cory D. Hislop, May 18, 2004
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  4. Cory D. Hislop

    Matt Guest

    You may be thinking too hard - If your lt settings are set, when you make
    the viewport and scale it (using the pulldown or xp factor) the viewport
    will scale the linetypes itself.....now I'm thinking too hard.

    Matt
     
    Matt, May 18, 2004
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  5. Cory D. Hislop

    Dave Byrnes Guest

    Do you want your linetypes to look different in different viewports? The
    PSLTSCALE system works on the basis that the linetypes look the same in all
    viewports regardless of their scale.

    Setting PSLTSCALE to 1 and LTSCALE to a value between 0.5 and 0.75 usually
    gives the best results for the former option -- you don't have to change the
    scales in individual viewports (in fact, you can't do that).

    If you really want different looking linetypes, you'd have to make them on
    different layers using different linetype patterns, and then freeze the
    layers with the "wrongly scaled" linetypes in the viewports where you don't
    want to see them.
     
    Dave Byrnes, May 18, 2004
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  6. that is the settings I had it at before...

    I have one viewport at 1/60xp and one viewport at 1/12xp..... when ltscale
    is at 1 i can see the hidden lines on the 1/12xp viewport but not the 1/60xp
    viewport. When the ltscale is set to 12 i can see the hidden lines on the
    1/60xp view port but not the 1/12xp view port....

    from what i have been seeing psltscale is not helping me.


    "Dean Saadallah" <info [at] pendean [dot] com> wrote in message
     
    Cory D. Hislop, May 18, 2004
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    Kate M Guest

    Leave LTSCALE at 1, change PSLTSCALE to 1, go into paperspace, and type
    REGENALL.
     
    Kate M, May 18, 2004
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  8. that is EXACTLY what I just did... no change...
     
    Cory D. Hislop, May 18, 2004
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  9. Cory D. Hislop

    Matt Guest

    Can you post an example in the customer files newsgroup? If so, let us
    know, someone can probably take a look at it.

    Matt
     
    Matt, May 18, 2004
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  10. I have posted it on the customer files group.

     
    Cory D. Hislop, May 18, 2004
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    TALSKY Guest

    Cory,

    In looking at your drawing in Model Tab, I found that your LTSCALE is not uniformly
    set at 1, but is set in some cases by object at other LTSCALES.

    For example, in Layout 3-Gantry-3, if you look at the 3'-5" SHLDR dimension next to
    the Walkway, right side of the upper viewport, you will find that it is linetype by
    object (Hidden), and if you check the properties, you will find out that it's
    linetype scale is set at 96.

    The current linetype scale or Celtscale is set at 1.0.

    Select ALL of your objects in the Model Tab and set them all to a linetype scale of
    1.0, or 0.5, or 0.3, and go from there.

    If you simply activate the upper viewport, make a crossing window around all the
    objects, or if regular window around all the objects, right click, and open the
    Properties Palette, and change the Linetype from "VARIES" to 1, you will see the
    results immediately.

    Also while there in Properties, scroll down to Display Lock and change it to YES.
    Do this for both viewports.

    Note that all the objects in the lower viewport are already set at a linetype scale
    of 1.

    Display Lock can also be set to yes by simply left clicking on both viewport LINES,
    and then doing a Right click will present a pop-up menu and about 5 items down from
    the top is Display Lock and you will see that yours are not locked. Check the YES,
    and notice what happens when you zoom and pan inside the activated viewport....

    Let us all know if this helps, and the problem is solved.

    Jack Talsky
     
    TALSKY, May 18, 2004
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  12. thank you very much.... I thought that there was somewhere that you could
    have individual linetype scales....
     
    Cory D. Hislop, May 18, 2004
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    TALSKY Guest

    You can, but when you made some of them 1, and others 96, you were mixing the apples
    with the oranges.

    When you set PSLTSCALE to 1, you are using paperspace settings, so that basically,
    you are plotting 1:1, that is why you set the LTscale to 1, or a number close to 1,
    like 0.5, or 1.5, or 2, or 0.3.

    If you set PSLTSCALE to 0, then you must set the LTscale to be somewhere within
    reason of the Scale Factor. So if you know that you are plotting at 1/8" = 1', you
    would set your LTscale at 96, or some number that looks good, but is near 96, not 1.

    The problem wasn't that you had individual objects set with specific object linetype
    scales, but that you had mixed up the linetype scale factor between PSLTscale 1 and
    0.

    This is not an easy set of variables to understand. Once you play with it you will
    get the idea.

    Jack Talsky
     
    TALSKY, May 18, 2004
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    teiarch Guest

    There's one other little trick you can use to insert some variety in your drawings. Individual line type scaling can be applied to polylines. If you want a little variety, change some of your line objects to polylines and scale them individually.

    The global LTscale command affects the appearance of these lines as it does every other object that isn't a continuous line type BUT you CAN tweak spacing if the lines are polylines with their own scaling factor.

    One more good reason to use polylines......
     
    teiarch, May 19, 2004
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    Dave Byrnes Guest

    You can use CELTSCALE on lines and arcs as well.
    --
    David Byrnes/Vancouver BC
    AutoDesk Discussion Group Facilitator

    drawings. Individual line type scaling can be applied to polylines. If you
    want a little variety, change some of your line objects to polylines and
    scale them individually.
    does every other object that isn't a continuous line type BUT you CAN tweak
    spacing if the lines are polylines with their own scaling factor.
     
    Dave Byrnes, May 19, 2004
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    Terry Drewes Guest

    Go to PSpace. Right Click on Viewport ("frame") and select "properties".
    Change LTSCALE in props dialog and enter. Now go to next viewport and
    repeat. If entering LTSCALE at command line, then you LTSCALE for the
    "dwg" globally at 1 or 0.5 (or what have you) and you set PSLTSCALE to
    be on at 1, so that vport lines will scale to their vport ltscale that
    you set in the props dialog.

    Ciao!
    ~Terry
     
    Terry Drewes, May 21, 2004
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