I have done extruded text with Draft since 2001+ or so, and it always worked OK, though it is obviously a complex drafted extrusion with multiple characters. I'm now on SWks 2005 SP 4.0 and WinXP SP2 w/latest M60 updates and correct nVIDIA driver (finally). 9 characters (Arial Rounded True Type fond) to extrude from a plane to a cylindrical surface with draft now takes 3 minutes on the M60. Extruding to a flat surface, on the contrary, is a "normal" extrusion time of maybe 15 seconds or so, which it has always been. Anyone else see these long times. Bo