Lock toolbar?

Hello!
I have a problem with toolbar "object properties" in ACAD menu group. I
added one more button to it - properties. Every time I open map 6, toolbar
isn't where I put it last time. I tried exporting and importing that profile
(*.arg), but every time is the same. Is there any way to lock a toolbar?
Shouldn't acad.mns change every time I change positions or contents of
anything on the screen?

Jasenka

 

The .mns will not change if there is a .mnc file that matches.

From the help files:
If an MNS file is found, AutoCAD looks for a compiled menu (MNC) file of the same name in the same directory. If AutoCAD finds a matching MNC file with the same or later date and time as the MNS file, it loads the MNC file. Otherwise, AutoCAD compiles the MNS file, generating a new MNC file in the same directory, and loads that MNC file.

Try deleting the .mnc file.

Bill

 

Try deleting the .mnc file.

Wrong, read your own post. If the mns has been modified since the last
compilation (mns has later date than mnc), then Acad will automatically
recompile the newer mnc, when it opens. Yoiu can force a recompilation, if
the mns has changed, simply by closing and reopening Acad. If you're in a
hurry you can use the menu or menuload commands to force a recompilation
right now. In either case it isn't necessary to delete the mnc or mnr files,
as they are always overwritten on compilation.

I think the positioning of toolbars is a separate issue. I don't know about
map6, but lots of people have complained about toolbars not staying where
they put them. I think it had something to do with Acad placing its toolbars
before it places custom ones -- there are some arrangements that just won't
seem to "stick."

the same name in the same directory. If AutoCAD finds a matching MNC file
with the same or later date and time as the MNS file, it loads the MNC file.
Otherwise, AutoCAD compiles the MNS file, generating a new MNC file in the
same directory, and loads that MNC file.

 

I've had to delete the mnc and mnr files to get toolbar changes to
take affect. Simple changing the mns file doesn't get it done.
--
Ken Alexander
Acad2000
Windows2000 Prof.

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind
of thinking we used when we created them."
--Albert Einstein

 

Whatever you say. "Simply changing the mns" has worked perfectly for me from
R14 through 2004, since I've been managing custom menus stored locally, for
about 25 users. When I change the custom menu I simply redistribute the mns
file. It recompiles automatically, exactly as the help file describes, the
next time Acad is opened. Impatient types can use menulaod to force a
recompilation without exiting Acad. So I've seen a few hundred successful
recompilations by this method in the last year alone, and there has never
been a case where anything had to be deleted first. As the manual says, the
recompilation is automatic when the mns is more recent than the mnc.

 

After I posted I did a test.

1. Modified the mns to add a button.
2. Restarted Acad, no new button.
3. Used Menuload, no new button.
4. Delete mnc & mnr, New button after restart.

I have no idea why it doesn't work for me. I learned of deleting
those two files from this group. Others are having the same problems.
Wonder why?

--
Ken Alexander
Acad2000
Windows2000 Prof.

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind
of thinking we used when we created them."
--Albert Einstein

 

What you say is true if Jasenka is manually changing the .mns.
But according to the post Jasenka is asking if the .mns gets changed through making changed through the interface.
By looking in the file explorer it doesn't although I see the changes the next time I start AutoCAD. So I am thinking it gets saved to the registery or somewhere else.

Bill

 

Yes, as I said, I think the positioning is a separate issue. I remember
seeing some posts on toolbars not staying in position, having to do with the
order in which they're loaded. I know there have been some arrangements that
won't "stick" for me, back as far as R14. For instance, I can't put a custom
toolbar to the left or above an Acad toolbar.

through making changed through the interface.

next time I start AutoCAD. So I am thinking it gets saved to the registery
or somewhere else.

 

Who knows? Deleting the mnc and mnr will certainly work to force a
recompilation. Perhaps it needs to be a new date as opposed to just a later
time to trigger the automatic recompile.

 

Positions of toolbars are saved in window's registry, so you can
change it by modifying them (screen coordinates).
JB

 

As far as the toolbars moving, here is exactly why it happens:

Acad displays toolbars in the order the menus are loaded.
If it encounters a toolbar that is supposed to be on the third row, but no third rows exist, it puts the toolbar on the
second row. This causes the pileup of toolbars being shifted around.

I have asked them to fix this as there is no workaround!
Profile exports and imports are irrelevent to the subject, the info in the registry is not the problem. Acad does a
great job of recording where stuff is supposed to be, it just has problems putting it there.

"Jasenka" <>
|>Hello!
|>I have a problem with toolbar "object properties" in ACAD menu group. I
|>added one more button to it - properties. Every time I open map 6, toolbar
|>isn't where I put it last time. I tried exporting and importing that profile
|>(*.arg), but every time is the same. Is there any way to lock a toolbar?
|>Shouldn't acad.mns change every time I change positions or contents of
|>anything on the screen?
|>
|>Jasenka
|>

James Maeding
Civil Engineer/Programmer

 

Thanks James,

For clearing that up.


Bill