this problem cropped up for me in R2000 where text is almost unreconizable in the metext Editor, I mostly use yellow text but have some off shades of red ( colour 20 & 22 ) for heavy text, I have changed to green , cyan, to no avail it all fades out. I have PROCAD 2000 installed as as rider package but the text is still light in Native ACAD. This might be a video driver issue but I have seen it on many different Vid driver & PC Combinations Thanks for any suggestions: Tom G Landry (remove nospam to reply)