I know this has been asked before but I've not been to these newsgroups much in quite some time. We are looking for high end third party license manager/copyright protection tools for applications developed in Visual LISP. We have reviewed a few such as FlexLM and Sentinel which are network based tools. We are hoping to find something more flexible in creating a variety of copyright protection modes such as demo's, 30 day timeouts, machine specific licensing, etc. However after several hours of searching the internet, there doesn't seen to be anything for Visual LISP. About the closest thing we've found is a small utility called LispPRO. Unfortunately this only works with native LISP code and not VLX applications. Many simple methods available to Visual LISP such as creating 30 day timeouts are easily bypassed by resetting the system clock. We definitely do not want to use the so called 'honor' system of using nag screens or copyright notices. I know from experience in major engineering firms I have worked for/with this is a completely ineffective means of protecting our investment. Thanks Jesse Danes