Hi, I'm wondering if there is a simple routine for saving the current layer states - similar to the LMAN command in express tools. I want to save the layer states, then turn on, thaw, unlock all layers and perform a complete scaling of the drawing and then restore the layer state back to its original form and finally delete the layer state. I can't use the Lman command because it uses dialog boxes and requires user input. I think that in 2000i you can use the layer command to do this but it is not available in 2000 which we still use. If possible, I would like to see this in autolisp only because thats all I know and I'll be able to understand it a little better, but whatever format is available will be great. Cheers, Frankie Golaub.