Is solid edge comparable, better or worse than SW?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by phil scott, Jun 28, 2008.

  1. phil scott

    That70sTick Guest

    Phil:

    I really am glad to see you posting here. I hope you will be posting
    with follow up once you get to doing real work in SE. Looking forward
    to hearing more from an actual SE user.
     
    That70sTick, Jul 2, 2008
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  2. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    IF you use that option you *may* need less CPU & memory.
    Time will tell but that's my rough guess (depending on
    what you are doing).
     
    Cliff, Jul 2, 2008
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  3. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    Do they sell Dells too?
     
    Cliff, Jul 2, 2008
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  4. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    How does your box compare to the list of hardware
    that they have tested & certified? Not that that may
    (yet) tell the whole story with the ST option.
     
    Cliff, Jul 3, 2008
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  5. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    That's good because the SW VARs sell & support SW, not UG or SE.
     
    Cliff, Jul 3, 2008
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  6. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    There actually is one (sometimes) over in AMC IIRC.
     
    Cliff, Jul 3, 2008
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  7. phil scott

    Bill Guest

    I got a good chuckle back at Haas. I was researching the concept for
    them of design thru manufacture. Selfish me brings in Siemens (NX and
    Teamcenter products) for a demo. My boss (who loves to pontificate
    about the greatness of Haas) exclaims to the rep that Haas is a $700
    million company and TELLS him we don't pay for software (hence
    Mastercam being there now). He then follows up with, "What kind of
    market cap is the UGS segment. The rep says $32... (long pause)
    Billion.
    <ggg>

    Btw, the engineers gave a audible gasp when they saw a design change
    flowed down from engineering to programming using Teamcenter. Alas,
    they now hand code or piece meal posted code using various methods.
     
    Bill, Jul 3, 2008
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  8. phil scott

    ken Guest

    SE will only use OpenGL on XP. If you are running Vista, you can run either
    OpenGL or Direct3D. Solid Edge expects OpenGL features normally only found
    on Quadro or FireGL graphics adapter. If you have Vista and can run in
    Direct3D, you may have a better experience with SE if you only have a Radeon
    adapter.

    --
    Ken

    My v20 version of SE was shipped last friday, I will pick it up this
    weekend, by blowing off one of my autocad programs (leaving IV in
    place so i can access its killer libraries)... and give it a test
    ride. The seimens vendor rep said my laptop would be way slow with
    SE synch and recommended a dell 2,000 dollar laptop... in checking it
    out, it was not impressively fast, dual core is all, a nyvidia
    graphics card...and came with only 1 gig of ram.

    My compac is single core, 2 mhz and 2 gig of ram.. cheezy ATI
    graphics card (AMD cpu)it runs inventor just fine.. id bet it runs SE
    well too.. maybe i will have to upgrade when synch comes out. i can
    access the SE in house group maybe... if I have time this weekend i
    will get it loaded etc and ask them whats up and post it here... still
    if that mouse mik dell will run synch.. my current laptop should.

    Phil scott


     
    ken, Jul 3, 2008
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  9. phil scott

    ken Guest

    I've used SE since V1 and never had to include the planar faces of a
    cylinder to constrain to them in the same part. There was a time (possibly
    in V16) where you would have had to include (project) edges of peer parts
    when designing in the context of an assembly, but not for a while now.
     
    ken, Jul 3, 2008
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  10. phil scott

    phil scott Guest

    they have a 500 discount on a dell if you buy the SE synch... maybe
    its a joint venture type deal with dell... but i looked at it. 80 gig
    hd... not alot these days. .. and 2.1mhz.. 120 gigs HD available from
    HP...my compaq comes close to that.

    it cant be true that the HP will run sych fast and mine wont unless
    the dual core is why... maybe synch is dual core dependent... somehow
    i doubt it though.


    Phil scott..
     
    phil scott, Jul 3, 2008
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  11. phil scott

    phil scott Guest

    for such a huge company and all those certifed SE seats..not many
    users post.. thats odd. I will know more this weekend. then I
    will take a week off to do some of the tutorials... plain SE not the
    synch yet though.


    Phil scott
     
    phil scott, Jul 3, 2008
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  12. phil scott

    phil scott Guest

    thanks that helps a lot.... I will hold off on a new laptop until
    seimens recommends one with the hot set up.

    Phil scott
     
    phil scott, Jul 3, 2008
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  13. phil scott

    phil scott Guest

    thats good news... IV has sketch planes no easy to set up sometimes,
    and then projecting geometery onto them before you can sketch etc..
    not only wastes a lot time but makes things very complicated.... SW
    doenst have the problem and now its good to hear SE doesnt either....
    will try it on my compaq this weekend.


    Phil scott
     
    phil scott, Jul 3, 2008
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  14. phil scott

    phil scott Guest

    Ive searched for cad groups a few times and surfed them and havent
    seen SE mentioned.

    it could be that SE is a more professional platform, used mostly in
    bigger businesses... its been my experience that USENET is more of a
    peoples forum than a corporat forum so SE is not showing,? it
    certainly seems to have a massive user base though.


    Phil scott
     
    phil scott, Jul 3, 2008
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  15. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    That's internal to UG (now Siemens) but once he has a legal copy
    of SE he should be able to gain access.
     
    Cliff, Jul 3, 2008
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  16. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    I think SW's user base is larger than SE's. Same mid--range
    market though.
     
    Cliff, Jul 3, 2008
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  17. phil scott

    That70sTick Guest

    SW definitely has a more active user base. More online forums
    (besides youse-net), more user groups, more open discussion.

    There's a good SE forum at eng-tips.com.
     
    That70sTick, Jul 3, 2008
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  18. phil scott

    Cliff Guest

    Pitifull. Did they have a banquer making random MDI edits
    at the controls?
    Last place I saw that had once been Fortune 500 ... just trying
    to undo the mess cost them many, many millions.
    They had even over-written the part files with random-edit
    undocumented g-code then overwritten the "backups"
    with the new "improved" shop-floor-control stuff.
    Just imagine trying to add one hole & post to a different
    work center ... times thousands of parts ...
     
    Cliff, Jul 3, 2008
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  19. Ive searched for cad groups a few times and surfed them and havent
    seen SE mentioned.

    it could be that SE is a more professional platform, used mostly in
    bigger businesses... its been my experience that USENET is more of a
    peoples forum than a corporat forum so SE is not showing,? it
    certainly seems to have a massive user base though.

    Phil,

    SW, SE and Inventor are direct competitors. They all aim for the same sweet
    spot in small to medium sized businesses. SW was the first to market, so it
    has an advantage there, but they've all been fighting for the same market
    for a number of years now. All three have many thousands of happy users. All
    three have thousands of unhappy users. Some of those unhappy users might be
    happier with one of the others. You'll never figure out which one is best
    for you except by trying them and even then there is a very good chance you
    will pick the wrong one because no trial is ever going to uncover more than
    a fraction of the good and bad points of each. Good luck with SE. Keep us
    posted. I'll try to weed through the dreck from jb, cliff and their friends
    to see how you are doing.

    Jerry Steiger
     
    Jerry Steiger, Jul 3, 2008
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  20. phil scott

    ken Guest

    Phil, those with active maintenance use the Siemens hosted newsgroups at
    http://bbsnotes.ugs.com. You have to have a WebKey account to access them
    (other than student). Other than that, second up would be:
    http://www.eng-tips.com/threadminder.cfm?pid=562

    Tom had both of these listed plus some others, but just wanted to emphasize
    these two.

    --
    Ken

    Ive searched for cad groups a few times and surfed them and havent
    seen SE mentioned.

    it could be that SE is a more professional platform, used mostly in
    bigger businesses... its been my experience that USENET is more of a
    peoples forum than a corporat forum so SE is not showing,? it
    certainly seems to have a massive user base though.


    Phil scott
     
    ken, Jul 3, 2008
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