Is it SW07 sp2 or is it me?

Maybe I'm just having a bitch of a day but has anyone else noticed with sp2
that when zoomed into a sketch you lose the middle mouse button rotate?
Zoom out with the wheel past a certain point and the functionality is
restored. If you are not in a sketch the rotate function works fine but
enter a sketch and zoom up past a certain point and no-rotato (or do you say
rotatoe?)

I did not see this behavior '07 <sp2. If this is a new feature what the
hell...?

I did a quick search in this group and didn't see any references to the
problem. Anyone?

Thanks,

- Eddy Hicks

 

Sounds like a common mouse driver problem. Depending on your mouse
driver, zooming in activates the mmb to control scroll bars instead of
rotate. I think you have to assign the mmb to act as either an mmb or a
wheel. 2007sp2 works properly for me here in that respect.

 

So zoomed into a "sketch" your mmb properly rotates? I have to ask again
because my mouse driver hasn't changed and I did double check my settings;
mmb set to middle button function (it was a good suggestion to check
though).

In sp1 it worked properly, in sp2 it stops rotating if zoomed in, but only
in a sketch. No changes to mouse driver or video driver, etc. (the usual
suspects all have alibis)

My "Hmmm" continues...

- Eddy

 

Mine still rotates the same, but I can't lock onto a vertex to use as a
rotation point. But I don't think that has ever been available.

WT

 

I know I might be beating a dead horse here but please edit a sketch and
zoom way in and try rotating. Nothing on my machine has changed except
updating to sp2. It's very repeatable here.

Thanks much folks,

- Eddy

 

Try the mouse thing. Really.

When you update a service pack, Windows sees it as a new application.
Your mouse driver settings can turn off the functionality for a specific
executable, and in a sp, that executable may have been updated or
replaced.

What you describe is *exactly* the symptom of a mouse driver that
changes the wheel to control the scroll bars once they are activated. If
you try this with something outside of the sketch (like a solid, or an
assembly) you will likely find that it does the same thing.

 

That's what I tried to do. I opened a part, edited a sketch, put in another
line to play with, made it .0001" long, zoomed way in until it mostly filled
the screen, then pushed my scroll wheel button and rotated the view. It
rotated, but the line flew out of sight. Am I missing something here?

WT

 

Sorry Eddie I can't confirm either. It works for me zoomed WAY in.

Muggs

 

Ok guys, thanks for confirming that it isn't sp2! I also had the
opportunity at my var yesterday to confirm that firsthand (thanks Scott). I
did triple check the mouse thing for sure Matt but it may be worth
reinstalling the mouse driver just in case. There's a ghost in the machine
somewhere. Knowing that it isn't categorically sp2 then I will update my
other machines and we'll see what happens.

Thanks again all!

- Eddy

 

This problem has existed since at least sw98. There are two fixes,
either add SW to the list of apps for which the special mmb/wheel
functions are disabled in the mouse driver or uninstall the oem driver
and use the default windows driver. It looks like it can happen with
Intellipoint drivers or Logitech drivers.

Here are some references to the same problem:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...bars+zoom+wheel&rnum=1&hl=en#31ea2e4a3f47126c

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...bars+zoom+wheel&rnum=2&hl=en#be18f0caa29ee0d0

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...bars+zoom+wheel&rnum=3&hl=en#0eca06a45295fa1b

http://groups-beta.google.com/group...bars+zoom+wheel&rnum=5&hl=en#ae5c17c3674256bf

 

Looks like we're both beating dead horses. I appreciate your time with the
links and trying to help. I've went through the links and I've lived
through the prior mouse issues dating back to, as you mention, at least
ver98. And just to make sure I went ahead and removed the 3rd party
(Logitech) wireless mouse drivers, rebooted, cleaned out the leftovers, etc.
Result: same problem with the generic MS drivers. Open part, edit a feature
sketch, zoom in with wheel and no rotate function. FWIW, when I do depress
the wheel down to rotate the view, SW does highlight a nearby surface or
edge, like it wants to rotate, but moving the mouse does nothing. Zoom out
a few clicks of the wheel and rotate functions normally again. I don't know
what is causing this, but I know what not's causing it.

Thanks again, I'll keep digging.

- Eddy

 

Ok, I went into SW config and reset all back to factory defaults. Mouse
works normally again. Since I didn't change any config settings between
sp1 and sp2 I have to believe there is something new in there that got
toggled. I'm still digging and I'll report what I find. There has got
to be a setting that controls zoom level rotate. Perhaps it's
undocumented but at least I'm not nuts. At least not about this.

- Eddy

 

Matt, Muggs, Wayne, please indulge me...

Using sp2, please enter config options and disable and enable "single
command per pick" and test the zoom level rotate again. let me know
what you find. Thanks!

- Eddy

 

Hello Eddy,

First of all I didn't realize that I needed to be editing sketch of a
FEATURE. Sorry!
I always have "single command per pick" enabled, so I went back and
reread your other posts.

OK here's the deal: With the "single command per pick" option enabled
(check box checked) I get the same non functioning MMB that you
describe. But when I uncheck "single command per pick" all works as it
should eg. I am able to rotate while zoomed in.

HTH,
Muggs

 

Ok, sorry for hounding you, you've got something here which is different
from the mouse driver problem, although the symptoms are very similar.

using 07sp2 zoomed into a sketch with "single command per pick" turned
on disables mmb rotation. zooming out reenables mmb rotate. it doesn't
seem to be connected to the scroll bars, there is a slight window where
the scroll bars are active and it still rotates normally.

Good catch.

Maybe you can charge your VAR for finding the problem.

 

No problem. I'll cancel the therapy I was going to order for being nuts.
Thank you guys for spending the time!!

Eddy Hicks
www.sldinc.com

 

Yup, same thing here. I don't ever have that setting on so that's why I
haven't seen it. Sure sounds like a bug to me. Good job.

WT

 

I got down to here in the thread before I realized that I had actually seen
this problem. Thanks for finding out that "single command per pick" is at
the root of it.

Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems
"take the garbage out, dear"

 

After submitting, this response came back...

" This issue is already been reported to the Development team as SPR #
350038 "Cannot rotate sketch while editing if it is not entirely within the
graphics area when 'Single command per pick' option is checked." "

Thanks again all,

- Eddy