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    jon_banquer Guest

    Its kind of sad to see a few immature users have degraded this group
    It's sad to see most SolidWorks users not care about core issues like
    this:

    http://machinedesign.com/ContentItem/68359/HowwasthatmodelbuiltSoftwaretellsall.aspx

    That so few SolidWorks users "get it" is evident by the top ten
    requests made by users to SolidWorks Corp. and presented at SolidWorks
    World, San Diego, CA.

    This newsgroup is a refection of what's wrong with SolidWorks and it's
    users. Until core issues like this are fixed SolidWorks and this
    newsgroup will continue to suffer.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Apr 1, 2008
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    brewertr Guest

    Jon,

    If SolidMap fixes "core" issues, how is it still an issue?
    If you need/want SolidMap add-in buy it, install it, issue over.

    In your own words, what exactly are you doing where you need SolidMap
    to take information already displayed in SolidWorks and convert it
    into a block diagram so it is easier for you to understand?

    When did you purchase and install SolidMap?

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Apr 1, 2008
    #42
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    Cliff Guest

    Such as these little gems of what you now call
    YOUR "adult language" (new buzzword I expect), eh?
    [
    "Bend over and let you're crack whore mother sodomize you harder till
    what little you have for a brain starts to work." - Jon Banquer-


    "Try a doughnut with you pathetic whining you obnoxious stupid little
    ****" - Jon Banquer


    "And to think I owned 2 Honda Civics. By any chance did you start
    banging Joe788's crack whore mother?"-Jon Banquer-


    "Your right gk....LOL can I suck your dick now." -Jon Banquer-


    "It fits tighter than a nuns ****." -Jon Banquer-


    "My mother is a crack whore" -Jon Banquer-


    "What an inconsiderate **** that little stalker bitch is." -Jon
    Banquer-


    "**** off and die asshole."-Jon Banquer-


    "Get use to being owned, bitch."-Jon Banquer-


    "How many more dicks will you be begging to suck?" -Jon Banquer-



    "Jam it up your ass, Looghe. Not everyone is Christian and not
    everybody wants to be a Christian Numb Nutz Putz. Suggest you go back
    to sodomizing dairy cows, Pete."-Jon Banquer -


    "Shove your double standards up your fucking ass, It's would be better
    if you died... soon." -Jon Banquer-

    "If someone doesn't understand where I'm coming from by now (you for
    instance) they can go **** themselves as well." - Jon Banquer - Chula
    Vista


    "suggest you get back on your knees where a lying **** like you
    belongs." -Jon Banquer-


    "How much money do you OWE not including your outstanding tab with
    your
    crack whore mother?"-Jon Banquer-


    "You don't love what your crack whore mother does to you? Does it have
    something to do with how much your father laughs at you while your
    bent over taking it in the ass? Being on your knees taking it in the
    ass is your natural position. Suggest you be proud of who you and your
    mother are." -Jon Banquer-


    " I backup what I post on a daily basis. You back up when your crack
    whore mother fucks you in the ass with here strap-on." - Jon Banquer-


    "Speaking of sharing. Your father shares your crack whore mother with
    anyone who has $5." -Jon Banquer -


    "How about using your crack whore mother? Everyone else does." -Jon
    Banquer-


    "I OWN you! You ain't worth much but I make the most of your worthless
    ass. Now get back on your knees you dumb ****." -Jon Banquer -


    "Suggest you shut the **** up already and take what your crack whore
    mother is giving you without squealing like a little pig. You're my
    bitch and I own you. Suggest you accept reality for once and deal with
    it." -Jon Banquer-


    "Has something to do with being born to a crack whore mother and
    having no idea who his daddy really is. At least he knows he's my
    bitch and I enjoy using him on a daily
    basis." -Jon Banquer -


    "inches of strap-on dildo that your crack whore mother shoved up your
    ass as you begged you father to tell her to stop." -Jon Banquer-


    "The only thing bottom of the barrel is where these motherfuckers will
    be found by the time I'm done fucking with them." -Jon Banquer-


    "Figure it out for yourself or have your worthless crack whore mother
    explain it to you while your father is pimping her out to John
    Carroll." - Jon Banquer-


    "Here is your "apology": **** off and die you worthless, lying fucking
    drunk." -Jon Banquer-


    "Yeah, I'll get right on spending my time educating a dumb mother
    fucker like you right away. You will get what I choose to give you
    when I choose to give it to you, bitch. -Jon Banquer-


    "You really need to stop sucking dick Numb Nutz. Seriously you're a
    major loser" Jon Banquer


    "Your crack whore mother going down on anyone who might give her $5"
    -Jon Banquer-


    "Let me explain what humiliation is to you since you're so fucking
    stupid that you have no clue what humiliation really is. Humiliation
    is you being sodomized by your mother wearing a strap-on.
    Did your father suck off your mother's strap-on before she sodomized
    you?" - Jon Banquer-


    "Now do what you do best and go back to playing with your nuts, son."
    - Jon Banquer


    "Seems like you wanna talk about you crack addicted whore of a mother
    who fucks you in the ass with her strap-on instead." -Jon Banquer-


    "I'm sure your crack addicted whore mother always tells you she loves
    you when you're bent over and hiding your face in shame in the corner.
    Do you tell her how successful you are and how many seats Mastercam
    has sold? Do you think she cares? Is this the reason you now prefer
    men? " -Jon Banquer-


    "WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... the sound you make
    when your cracked addicted whore mother rapes you over and over and
    over again." -Jon Banquer-


    "Are you happy with the position your crack addicted whore mother puts
    you in when she fucks you in the ass with her strap-on? You like being
    bent over and taking it in the ass don't you? " -Jon Banquer-


    "Why? You prefer men. The only exception you make is for your crack
    addicted whore of a mother. " -Jon Banquer-


    "Squeal like the raped little bitch your crack addicted whore mother
    turned you into. It's so you! " -Jon Banquer-


    "Your crack addicted whore mother cums hard when she has you in the
    position she loves you to be in... on your knees in a corner squealing
    like the lying little pig that you are. " -Jon Banquer-


    "I feel sorry for your mother or whatever you call that crack whore
    that spit you out." -Jon Banquer-


    "Your mother does anyone. That's what happens when you're a crack
    whore. Proud of her are you?" -Jon Banquer -


    "You have every right to be proud of your crack whore mother. Look how
    long she's been in business."-Jon Banquer-


    "Of course that pails in comparison to your crack whore mother who is
    still open for business 24/7/365. " - Jon Banquer -
    ]
    Such as your new form of "adult language" full of CAD/CAM,
    CAD, CAM or machining wisdom copied from others & ads:
    [
    "Bend over and let you're crack whore mother sodomize you harder till
    what little you have for a brain starts to work." - Jon Banquer-


    "Try a doughnut with you pathetic whining you obnoxious stupid little
    ****" - Jon Banquer


    "And to think I owned 2 Honda Civics. By any chance did you start
    banging Joe788's crack whore mother?"-Jon Banquer-


    "Your right gk....LOL can I suck your dick now." -Jon Banquer-


    "It fits tighter than a nuns ****." -Jon Banquer-


    "My mother is a crack whore" -Jon Banquer-


    "What an inconsiderate **** that little stalker bitch is." -Jon
    Banquer-


    "**** off and die asshole."-Jon Banquer-


    "Get use to being owned, bitch."-Jon Banquer-


    "How many more dicks will you be begging to suck?" -Jon Banquer-



    "Jam it up your ass, Looghe. Not everyone is Christian and not
    everybody wants to be a Christian Numb Nutz Putz. Suggest you go back
    to sodomizing dairy cows, Pete."-Jon Banquer -


    "Shove your double standards up your fucking ass, It's would be better
    if you died... soon." -Jon Banquer-

    "If someone doesn't understand where I'm coming from by now (you for
    instance) they can go **** themselves as well." - Jon Banquer - Chula
    Vista


    "suggest you get back on your knees where a lying **** like you
    belongs." -Jon Banquer-


    "How much money do you OWE not including your outstanding tab with
    your
    crack whore mother?"-Jon Banquer-


    "You don't love what your crack whore mother does to you? Does it have
    something to do with how much your father laughs at you while your
    bent over taking it in the ass? Being on your knees taking it in the
    ass is your natural position. Suggest you be proud of who you and your
    mother are." -Jon Banquer-


    " I backup what I post on a daily basis. You back up when your crack
    whore mother fucks you in the ass with here strap-on." - Jon Banquer-


    "Speaking of sharing. Your father shares your crack whore mother with
    anyone who has $5." -Jon Banquer -


    "How about using your crack whore mother? Everyone else does." -Jon
    Banquer-


    "I OWN you! You ain't worth much but I make the most of your worthless
    ass. Now get back on your knees you dumb ****." -Jon Banquer -


    "Suggest you shut the **** up already and take what your crack whore
    mother is giving you without squealing like a little pig. You're my
    bitch and I own you. Suggest you accept reality for once and deal with
    it." -Jon Banquer-


    "Has something to do with being born to a crack whore mother and
    having no idea who his daddy really is. At least he knows he's my
    bitch and I enjoy using him on a daily
    basis." -Jon Banquer -


    "inches of strap-on dildo that your crack whore mother shoved up your
    ass as you begged you father to tell her to stop." -Jon Banquer-


    "The only thing bottom of the barrel is where these motherfuckers will
    be found by the time I'm done fucking with them." -Jon Banquer-


    "Figure it out for yourself or have your worthless crack whore mother
    explain it to you while your father is pimping her out to John
    Carroll." - Jon Banquer-


    "Here is your "apology": **** off and die you worthless, lying fucking
    drunk." -Jon Banquer-


    "Yeah, I'll get right on spending my time educating a dumb mother
    fucker like you right away. You will get what I choose to give you
    when I choose to give it to you, bitch. -Jon Banquer-


    "You really need to stop sucking dick Numb Nutz. Seriously you're a
    major loser" Jon Banquer


    "Your crack whore mother going down on anyone who might give her $5"
    -Jon Banquer-


    "Let me explain what humiliation is to you since you're so fucking
    stupid that you have no clue what humiliation really is. Humiliation
    is you being sodomized by your mother wearing a strap-on.
    Did your father suck off your mother's strap-on before she sodomized
    you?" - Jon Banquer-


    "Now do what you do best and go back to playing with your nuts, son."
    - Jon Banquer


    "Seems like you wanna talk about you crack addicted whore of a mother
    who fucks you in the ass with her strap-on instead." -Jon Banquer-


    "I'm sure your crack addicted whore mother always tells you she loves
    you when you're bent over and hiding your face in shame in the corner.
    Do you tell her how successful you are and how many seats Mastercam
    has sold? Do you think she cares? Is this the reason you now prefer
    men? " -Jon Banquer-


    "WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... the sound you make
    when your cracked addicted whore mother rapes you over and over and
    over again." -Jon Banquer-


    "Are you happy with the position your crack addicted whore mother puts
    you in when she fucks you in the ass with her strap-on? You like being
    bent over and taking it in the ass don't you? " -Jon Banquer-


    "Why? You prefer men. The only exception you make is for your crack
    addicted whore of a mother. " -Jon Banquer-


    "Squeal like the raped little bitch your crack addicted whore mother
    turned you into. It's so you! " -Jon Banquer-


    "Your crack addicted whore mother cums hard when she has you in the
    position she loves you to be in... on your knees in a corner squealing
    like the lying little pig that you are. " -Jon Banquer-


    "I feel sorry for your mother or whatever you call that crack whore
    that spit you out." -Jon Banquer-


    "Your mother does anyone. That's what happens when you're a crack
    whore. Proud of her are you?" -Jon Banquer -


    "You have every right to be proud of your crack whore mother. Look how
    long she's been in business."-Jon Banquer-


    "Of course that pails in comparison to your crack whore mother who is
    still open for business 24/7/365. " - Jon Banquer -
    ]
    Nobody ever claimed that you had any to begin with AFAIK.
    CLUE: Neither I, Gary Knutson norTom Brewer denied
    the "Holocaust".
    So this is your little voices, schizophrenia, delusions & buzzwords from
    ads & the posts of others after you again.

    I expect that an advanced form of an MRI scan would be interesting.
    http://www.schizophrenia.com/research/schiz.brain.htm
    [
    UCLA brain researchers using a powerful new technique have created the first
    images showing the devastating impact of schizophrenia on the brain. The
    findings, published in the Sept. 25 issue of the Proceedings of the National
    Academy of Sciences*, show how a dynamic wave of tissue loss engulfs the brains
    of schizophrenic patients in their teen-age years.

    The findings may have key diagnostic implications. Aided by a better
    understanding of how psychosis develops, researchers can detect aberrant loss
    early and treat patients as early as possible. Future medications might fight
    the rapid loss of brain tissue, and their effectiveness could be assessed using
    the imaging technique.

    "This is the first study to visualize how schizophrenia develops in the brain,"
    said Paul Thompson, an assistant professor of neurology at the UCLA School of
    Medicine and the study's chief investigator. "Scientists have been perplexed
    about how schizophrenia progresses and whether there are any physical changes in
    the brain. We were stunned to see a spreading wave of tissue loss that began in
    a small region of the brain. It moved across the brain like a forest fire,
    destroying more tissue as the disease progressed."
    ]

    It seems that brain loss exists & progreses in many cases of schizophrenia
    and/or psychosis. Starts at the back of the brain & moves forwards over
    several years IIRC.
    Perhaps it's akin to a piron disease such as Kuru or a bit like
    Alzheimer's. I wonder if it's contagious or transmissible.
    And if one listens while shaking I'd wager his head rattles
    much like a gourd with a dried pea inside.
    Probably all the little voices & delusions fit in the remaining
    (& growing) empty space.

    Might even explain why he had to leave school & cannot comprehend
    even simple shop math or gets kicked out of any trade school he's tried
    on day one.

    Also, consider:
    [
    In the mental health field, schizophasia, commonly referred to as word salad
    (see "word salad" for other meanings), is used to describe the symptom of
    confused, and often repetitious, language that is symptomatic of various mental
    illnesses. It is usually associated with a manic presentation and other symptoms
    of serious mental illnesses, such as psychoses, including schizophrenia. It
    describes the apparently confused usage of words with no apparent meaning or
    relationship attached to them. In this context, it is considered to be a symptom
    of a formal thought disorder. In some cases schizophasia can be a sign of
    asymptomatic schizophrenia ....
    ]

    (Buzz)Word salad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad

    And we wondered why he's so confused & loves buzzwords & being so
    utterly clueless ....
     
    Cliff, Apr 1, 2008
    #43
  4. RaceBikesOrWork

    Cliff Guest

    Banquers.
    Not even HS or basic shop math ....
     
    Cliff, Apr 1, 2008
    #44
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    Cliff Guest

    Correct. Not that he even actually grasped what the words
    were to begin with.

    (Buzz)Word salad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad

    And we wondered why he's so confused & loves buzzwords & being so
    utterly clueless ....
     
    Cliff, Apr 1, 2008
    #45
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    Cliff Guest

    If he leaves out some holes it's a lot easier to make.
    If he drills them in the wrong place he needs to change
    the model.

    The Zen of the RED button:
    [
    When my mind is deep in the code and I'm standing at the machine
    editing or creating a program I can see the tool in my mind as cuts
    the part. I'm like in another world.
    ] - clueless

    [
    In better shops people know when not to bother you. When
    this happens on a frequent basis it's a good sign that
    perhaps one should move on.
    ] - clueless

    "One word sums it up.....HANDWHEEL"

    I can just hear him pushing a toolbox down the freeway in a hurry ....
    rattle, clank, clank ....


    Remember the X-files episode "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose"?
    [
    Puppet: "There's something I've been wanting to ask you for some time
    now. You've seen the things I do in the past as well as in the
    future."

    Clyde Bruckman: "They're terrible things."

    Puppet: "I know they are. So tell me, please, why have I done them."

    Clyde Bruckman: "Don't you understand yet son? Don't you get it?"
    [Killer shakes his head] "You do the things you do because you're a
    homicidal maniac."

    Puppet: "That... that does explain a lot, doesn't it. It's all
    starting to make sense now."
    ]
     
    Cliff, Apr 1, 2008
    #46
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    Cliff Guest

    Since when does a simple (& rather limited)crutch for clueless newbies have
    anything to do with real professional SW users?
    None of them needed it or similar, right?
    OTOH THEY actually use SW.
    Was this someone wanting to pay you for advertising on Usenet?
    <Snicker>
     
    Cliff, Apr 1, 2008
    #47
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    Cliff Guest

    As he's a functional illiterate and cannot read the docs or stay
    in a class over about an hour before being kicked out he's reduced
    to begging for pretty pictures.

    The brain rot may have much earlier reduced his (quite limited)
    comprehension centers to mush.
    Or SW for that matter. Or anything else at all.
     
    Cliff, Apr 1, 2008
    #48
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    jon_banquer Guest

    Gary Knutson, Tom Brewer and Cliff Huprich Tactics Exposed:

    http://www.jewishgen.org/forgottencamps/Exhib/HowtoEngl.html

    "Sticks and Stones -- If you're being wiped out with evidence and
    reasoning you cannot refute, you can always take refuge in complaining
    about the language being used by your adversaries. For example, if
    they say, "I've already explained that it takes less gas to kill
    people than lice, and therefore there are fewer cyanide residues
    remaining on the gas chamber walls than on the delousing chamber
    walls, you moron," you can respond by complaining about their use of
    the word "moron." You can actually evade quite a bit of serious
    discussion by spending a lot of time condescendingly lecturing the
    newsgroup about their use of trashy language. But this approach
    doesn't work very well in building credibility. You may view yourself
    as an arbiter of social discourse but you'll actually come off like a
    den-mother scurrying around excoriating the little Cub Scouts to
    behave themselves."

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego, CA
     
    jon_banquer, Apr 1, 2008
    #49
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    brewertr Guest

    brewertr, Apr 1, 2008
    #50
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    jon_banquer Guest

    Ignorant:

    "Jon, I never forgot any of your postings about SDRC I made the wrong
    decision in spite of what you said. There have been a number of times
    that my Wife has told me to be careful in dealing with someone and
    after words says "I told you so". She earned the right to say it as
    well as you have earned the right to say I TOLD YOU SO. I made a
    decision that went against my better judgment and as usual it turned
    out poorly." .... Tom Brewer

    Ignorant:

    "I do not purchase programs unless I know before hand that they are
    what I want and/ or need."... Tom Brewer who can't follow his own
    advice. See above.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer thinking he and his pals like Joe788 can play their Usenet
    staking games, lie on a repeated basis and suffer no consequences for
    doing so.

    Ignorant:

    "I have shot myself in the foot, not an easy thing to do when it is
    in your mouth and your head is in your ass."... Tom Brewer admitting
    what he's often like.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who has a proven track record of not being able to deal with
    or accept the kind of change that occurs in the cadcam market... now
    that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who doesn't live in San Diego yet insists there is no shortage
    of CNC machinists here... now that's ignorant or should we say that's
    Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Someone who criticizes someone on SolidWorks but has never helped
    anyone with specific SolidWorks answers. Someone who is not able to
    answer any questions that "Vinny" had on master modeling or skeletal
    modeling. Someone who has never posted any models they have done...
    now that's ignorant or should we say that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's failure to understand who Matt Lombard really is.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer's unable to comprehend what's on the cover of the
    SolidWorks Bible:

    "Whether you're a new, intermediate, ...."

    Ignorant:

    Someone who can't understand more than a simple "I love it!" or "I
    hate it!" type of comment ... now that's ignorant or should we say
    that's Tom Brewer.

    Ignorant:

    Tom Brewer implies that because you acknowledge that the $25
    SolidWorks course covers subjects / topics that the $650 SolidWorks
    course didn't that you're now somehow an idiot and got screwed when
    you decided to purchase the $650 SolidWorks course.

    Tom Brewer Writing About SmartCAM:

    "I ended up paying a consultant $40.00 per hour for two weeks."

    "FYI, when I said "Solid modeling" in reference to SmartCam it was
    tongue in cheek. What you could not see is that when I was typing that
    I was laughing to myself. Anyone that uses SmartCam and Solid
    Modeling in the same sentence cannot be taken seriously."

    Recently Tom Brewer said SmartCAM had no user interface problems and
    yet the record shows Tom Brewer thinks SmartCAM does indeed have user
    interface problems:

    "The only real problem that I run into is that the screen can get
    cluttered and it becomes difficult to pick and choose elements in Free
    Form. I just use the utility masking feature to hide what is in the
    way, that cures the problem but it does add work (I tried the snap
    filtering and snap options but for me it was not the best way), I
    have seen other packages that handle picking and choosing in better."

    Conclusion:

    Tom Brewer thinks he's a SolidWorks expert. A SolidWorks expert is
    someone who knows more and more about less and less until he knows
    absolutely everything about nothing.
     
    jon_banquer, Apr 2, 2008
    #51
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    gk Guest

    I'll bet you weren't too suprised at this brilliant comback from Jonnie.
    I't all he's good for these days, other than the link he keeps using
    that relates to nothing.

    gk
     
    gk, Apr 2, 2008
    #52
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    jon_banquer Guest

    I'll bet no one was too surprised at my lame comeback.
    Now it's correct, Nut son.

    Jon Banquer
    San Diego,CA
     
    jon_banquer, Apr 2, 2008
    #53
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    gk Guest

    Jonnie, your forgeries are more than pathetic!

    gk
     
    gk, Apr 2, 2008
    #54
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    jon_banqueer Guest

    jon_banqueer, Apr 2, 2008
    #55
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    Cliff Guest

    This endless repeat of long discredited garbage a symptom
    of (Buzz)Word salad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad

    "Word salad is a string of words that vaguely resemble language, and may or
    may not be grammatically correct, but is utterly meaningless."

    http://wordsalad.tribe.net/
    "An agglomerative agglutination of accreous words, word-like objects, and
    wordish devices that generally add up to less than the sum of their
    participles."

    http://medical.merriam-webster.com/medical/word salad
    [
    Main Entry: word sal·ad
    Pronunciation: -sal-d
    Function: noun
    : a jumble of extremely incoherent speech as sometimes observed in
    schizophrenia
    ]

    AKA clueless buzzword king.

    BINGO !!
     
    Cliff, Apr 2, 2008
    #56
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    Cliff Guest

    What else are the voices to do without clues but with
    (Buzz)Word salad?

    This endless repeat of long discredited garbage a symptom
    of (Buzz)Word salad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad

    "Word salad is a string of words that vaguely resemble language, and may or
    may not be grammatically correct, but is utterly meaningless."

    http://wordsalad.tribe.net/
    "An agglomerative agglutination of accreous words, word-like objects, and
    wordish devices that generally add up to less than the sum of their
    participles."

    http://medical.merriam-webster.com/medical/word salad
    [
    Main Entry: word sal·ad
    Pronunciation: -sal-d
    Function: noun
    : a jumble of extremely incoherent speech as sometimes observed in
    schizophrenia
    ]

    AKA clueless buzzword king.

    Is Bill Gibbs still hiding under his bed whispering secrets?

    http://www.schizophrenia.com/szresearch/archives/001217.html
    "Voices and the brain"
    "Temporal course of auditory hallucinations."
    "Some think that voices are due to a person’s own inner speech that gets
    misperceived as sounds that come from outside."
    "The researchers asked 8 people with schizophrenia who frequently heard voices
    to give permission to have .... "

    BINGO !!
     
    Cliff, Apr 2, 2008
    #57
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    Bo Guest

    Tom, it is time for EVERY SolidWorks user in this forum to stop
    replying to any of this Cliff & Jon crap.

    All it does is destroy legitimate threads, with utterly useless
    drivel. These guys have no life and try to live on Usenet.

    Let them go off and set up comp.cad.cliffjon
     
    Bo, Apr 2, 2008
    #58
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    FrankW Guest

    I'm thinking of creating a killfile with those clowns in it.
    Anyone else I should add?
     
    FrankW, Apr 2, 2008
    #59
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    brewertr Guest

    You're right Bo.

    Tom
     
    brewertr, Apr 2, 2008
    #60
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