Insert Blocks problem

this is probably a dumb question, but i've never used Blocks before.
saved a sketch as a block and i can insert the block into a drawing.
in order to select the block (to drag-move it, whatever), it seems that
the insertion of the block had to be done with the sheet active rather than
the view. If the view was active when the block-> insert was done,
i can't select the block to do anything with it. the block instances
appear
near the top of the FM, and i can select them there to delete, edit, etc.
Can a block be related to a drawing view (so it moves with the view) or am i
doing something wrong?
I couldn't find anything in the help file that discussed the view/sheet
activity when inserting blocks.
thanks
bill

using sw2004sp4.1

 

Not sure just what is going on. I just tried it with SP5.0 and I could
always select the block. If I tied it to the view, it moved with it. If
not, it didn't. Either way, I can always select it.

Try documenting and posting the exact step by step procedure - maybe we can
spot something.

WT

 

2004 SP4.2 here and it seems to work like I would expect.
Try RMB on view and select Lock View Focus
then insert your block.

Now when you move the view it should move the block with it just like
dimensions work.

If you want to get a block that seems to be behind a view.
RMB in a blank part of the sheet and select Lock Sheet Focus. you should be
able to select the blocks now.

You might be able to move it out from under the view and unlock the focus
and SHIFT drag the block onto a view.

Corey

 

Oh, maybe that's the issue - it's not tied to the view, but yet behind the
view. So, either hide the view or drag it out of the way, then grab the
block.

Hmm, I just tried putting a block on the sheet and then dragging a view over
the top of it - I was still able to grab the block.

WT

 

I know that depending on what you have in a block it may be harder to
select. I have one that is only text and when the text is blank it is a bit
harder to find the right spot to grab it from.

Corey

 

1. created new view from model.
2. Insert -> Block (cursor in screen area of view , dynamic view
activation option on)
3. Block appears within view. Block moves along with movement of the
view itself.
4. Cannot drag block to move it. Cursor doesn't react to any block
entities. Entities of model are selectable in normal manner.
5. If I window around the entire block, a "Block Instance" list comes up
in the FM area.

Could layers be involved here? Block Instance shows "none" in the Layer
field. I created the block in the same
drawing that I'm working with now.

thanks
Bill

 

Interesting! It works just fine exactly as you described on sp 4.2. Either
it was something that got fixed in the next SP since you are on 4.1 or there
is some setting causing this. I had this happen a while ago and thought it
was a bug for a bit then I called my var and found out it was a setting that
had accidently gotten turned on. What my problem was was I wanted to do a
cutout section of a view and the sketch wasn't selectable ended up being
that the sketch wasn't getting drawn on the correct view. Unfortunately I
don't recall the exact setting that was causing the problem.

Corey

 

I just created a fresh empty drawing from an existing template I use all the
time
and the block worked like it should. I had created a view with a simple
part
unrelated to the project with the problem.
I guess I'll compare options, etc from this new test drawing to the one with
the
problem and see if I can pin down the difference. I thought the problem
drawing
was created from the same template, but I'm not totally sure.
If I find something specific, I'll post the result.
thanks for your time.
Bill

 

On the fresh drawing I spoke of before, where the block select worked, I was
able to recreate the
problem by putting the view mode into "Hidden Lines Visible". I can
toggle the problem on and off by
switching between HLR to HLV.
Can anyone else repeat this, or does this occur in sw2005? (haven't
switched yet).

Thanks
Bill

 

I did a quick test and it still seems to work fine. Maybe I am doing
something wrong. Is your block completely contained by the view border?