Importing a 3D model of a Printed Circuit Board

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by Tom Page, Jul 2, 2003.

  1. Tom Page

    Tom Page Guest

    I am trying to find out whether anyone has tried to import a 3D model
    (object) of an assembled
    PCB from a PCB CAD package such as Zuken-Redac, Orcad, Protel or Mentor
    Graphics. If so
    did it successfully import i.e. as a single object? If so, could you
    perform translations and rendering
    on the model? If not, what problems were encountered?

    Kind Regards

    tom
     
    Tom Page, Jul 2, 2003
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  2. Circuitworks converts Allegro PCB files well. It probably works on the
    files of some of the programs you mentioned too.

    -Michael
     
    Michael Wittig, Jul 2, 2003
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  3. Tom Page

    Ron Roberts Guest

    This can be done using the ECAD import option along with *.emn (if I
    remember correctly) exported files from an IDF compliant PCB layout
    package. I have done this in the past and it worked great but it took
    quite a bit of effort/time to get clean, accurate 3D models of PCB's. If
    I remember correctly, all of the parts/decals in the PCB layout tool
    need to have a "Z" height or thickness assigned to them and then if you
    want to, you can swap accurate Pro/E models for PCB decals where you
    like. I used this mapping functionality to place accurate models of
    headers, connectors and transformers on the PCB in place of the decals.
    If this is something that you may do quite a bit of, it is definitely
    worth the investment in time to get working, otherwise, modeling the
    board and the mechanically significant stuff in Pro/E, may be the way to
    go. Of course, the last time that I worked with the ECAD tools was
    almost 5 years ago so maybe a few things have changed (maybe gotten
    easier)?

    Ron
     
    Ron Roberts, Jul 3, 2003
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  4. CircuitWorks imports from most PCB systems using the IDF file format,
    although a seperate translator is required for PADS.
    The file is imported as a SolidWorks assembly with all parts seperate.
    Regards
    Pete
     
    Peter Nichols, Jul 3, 2003
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  5. Tom Page

    Len K. Mar Guest

    Tom,

    I've used Desktop EDA to translate Protel99SE files to SW. Since
    Protel does not use IDF a special translator for it is required.

    The interface works inside of Protel and allows you to set up a
    library folder of SW components in which the translator looks. If it
    doesn't see the part model it uses the circuit board dimensions to
    create primitive solids of the part (i.e. If it doesn't see a model of
    an analog resistor it creates a cylinder).

    It is very robust and works as advertised. Desktop EDA makes an IDF
    version for those ECAD applications that use this file format. Price
    is around $700.00 for the IDF version and $1000.00 for the Protel
    version.

    Cheers,

    Len K. Mar, PEng.
    E-Data Solutions
     
    Len K. Mar, Jul 3, 2003
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    Brian Park Guest

    We also use this software to import from Veribest via IDF. It is mostly
    error free, although it may get the heights of components wrong if the PCB
    designer doesn't get his z dimension right in his library. Easily fixed in
    S/W. Once it comes in, it behaves just like a standard Solidworks assembly.
    Very useful for packaging checks. Paid for itself with one interference we
    found, and saved us a lot of grief.

    bp
    DVC Co.
     
    Brian Park, Jul 7, 2003
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