Imported Models

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Seth Renigar, Jun 4, 2004.

  1. Seth Renigar

    Seth Renigar Guest

    Why is it, that imported models almost always break up a hole feature into 2
    surfaces? Or at the very best, it will produce a single surface through the
    hole itself, but if you select the edges of the hole, it will be split into
    2 half circles.

    Is there no way around this?
     
    Seth Renigar, Jun 4, 2004
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  2. Because it was most likely nurbs or spline based data originally (pro/e,
    sdrc,..) or the user selected that the data be exported as nurbs (iges
    type 126/128)? It's not uncommon to see this import behavior.
    We did have a option a few releases ago to heal the split data as
    analytical so you would get a full circle... I don't think it works this
    way now? Anyhow, that heal feature was the way around or a fix for the
    split circles/arcs.
    And, as jk mentioned, if you export and import using STEP or IGES, it
    will go through another auto heal (if it's set) and try to convert them
    into analytical.

    ...
     
    Paul Salvador, Jun 4, 2004
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  3. Seth Renigar

    Seth Renigar Guest

    Yeah, I've just got finished doing your dumb-ass solution as well :) But
    it is a PITA to have to do...

    I don't know why I haven't thought about the round trip (I call it
    "looping"). I have used this method many times before. Just forgot I
    guess....
     
    Seth Renigar, Jun 4, 2004
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  4. Seth Renigar

    Arlin Guest

    Yep, as jk implied, the issue you see with cylindrical holes being
    imported as 2 half-cylindrical surfaces is the originating system's
    fault.

    For instance, in ProE, all cylindrical surfaces are split in two. Thus,
    when you export an iges from ProE, and then import that into SWX,
    cylindrical surfaces may be split as well.

    No idea why ProE (or some other cad packages) do this, but that is the
    way it is.
     
    Arlin, Jun 4, 2004
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  5. Seth Renigar

    Jeff Mowry Guest

    Rhino does this too--NURBS. Rhino's fault in this case, not SW.


    Jeff Mowry
    Industrial Designhaus, LLC
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    Jeff Mowry, Jun 4, 2004
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  6. Seth Renigar

    TheTick Guest

    It is a result of whatever made the translation to begin with. Very
    common in Pro-E output.

    I've imported plenty of UG parasolids where this doesn't happen,
    though.

    BTW....
    Quick fix to turn NURBS back into planes and cylinders:
    Export model as STEP203 (not STEP214), then reimport to SW. Sometimes
    this converts Bisurface entities back to planes and conics.

    Discovered this by accident, but it's been a lifesaver in the past.
     
    TheTick, Jun 5, 2004
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  7. Seth Renigar

    TheTick Guest

    It is a result of whatever made the translation to begin with. Very
    common in Pro-E output.

    I've importedplenty of UG parasolids where this doesn't happen,
    though.

    BTW....
    Quick fix to turn NURBS back into planes and cylinders:
    Export model as STEP203 (not STEP214), then reimport to SW. Sometimes
    this converts Bisurface entities back to planes and conics.

    Disocered this by accident, but it's been a lifesaver in the past.
     
    TheTick, Jun 5, 2004
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  8. Seth Renigar

    Jeff Howard Guest

    It's a translation protocol option that's set because some (probably older
    for the most part, Pro/E / Granite still) systems don't like surfaces that
    are closed in one direction (cylinders, spheres, etc.). The split option
    can be toggle for Rhino IGES exports. I think STEP allows setting the
    option, too, but don't remember ever seeing it exposed to the user in any
    software (if SWX exports don't split 'em, I guess an option does exist).
    Doesn't have anything to do with NURBS, at any rate (and fwiw).

    Does this cause problems or is it just an annoyance?
     
    Jeff Howard, Jun 5, 2004
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  9. Seth Renigar

    Seth Renigar Guest

    Jeff,

    Just an annoyance actually. Although this is a model that I am creating a
    mold from using vanilla SolidWorks (no add on software). Therefore there is
    a lot of in-context stuff going on and having to deal with this kind of
    stupid Sh-t throughout the design process can be a PITA and not very
    efficient.
     
    Seth Renigar, Jun 7, 2004
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  10. Seth Renigar

    Seth Renigar Guest

    Thanks Tick. I'll keep that in mind in the future.
     
    Seth Renigar, Jun 7, 2004
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