I run Spectre several times but stop at the same space,why?

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by Harryzhu, Apr 1, 2005.

  1. Harryzhu

    Harryzhu Guest

    Hi,

    I run simulation with spectre, but it cannot be finished everytime and
    stops at the same space, how strange is it! I don't know why it do so, who
    may help me or give some advice? Thanks for your help!

    Have a good day!

    Best Regards,

    Harryzhu
     
    Harryzhu, Apr 1, 2005
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  2. Harryzhu

    S.Badel Guest

    just add this to your .cdsenv

    spectre.envOpts dontCrash boolean t
     
    S.Badel, Apr 1, 2005
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  3. Harryzhu

    S.Badel Guest

    ;)
    I'm kidding of course, but...
    What kind of answer do you expect if you do not give any clue, error
    message or excerpt from the log file???

    Please give some more info.

    stéphane
     
    S.Badel, Apr 1, 2005
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  4. Harryzhu

    G Vandevalk Guest

    Figure out what happens at the bi-stable point.

    What is happening is that mathematically something
    changes in the network at the time/freq in question.

    Usually it can be tracked to some input condition changing.

    The other main source is usually caused by a mathematical
    quirk in the forcing matrix (i.e. the feedback to some node
    reached the same drive as the input)

    At this bi-stable condition,the mathematics goes nuts. Usually the
    circuit will pass this location in real life because one of the inputs
    into the bi-stable condition is driven by a source that is not directly
    tied to the output of this node. (But mathematically, the simulator
    cannot make this choice!)

    Try relaxing your simulation criterion and examining the circuit at this
    point. ( I have seen this caused by several "unconnected" noise sources
    that were left in the circuit for convenience ... Each time a source has a
    discontinuity, the integration algo. changes and causes a glitch ... ARGH)

    I recommend that you read the book "The Designer's Guide to Spice & Spectre"
    by Kenneth S. Kundert ... ISBN 0-7923-957109
     
    G Vandevalk, Apr 1, 2005
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  5. Very amusing ;->
     
    Andrew Beckett, Apr 4, 2005
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  6. Harryzhu

    fogh Guest

    Nice one.
    Hope we get more april fool posts next year.

    spectre.envOpts pleaseOhPleaseGiveAShyBowBeforeYouCrash boolean t
     
    fogh, Apr 5, 2005
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