how to use CadenceSpace-Based Router

Discussion in 'Cadence' started by Erick, Feb 1, 2010.

  1. Erick

    Erick Guest

    Dear All,

    We are using IC613 Space-Based Router to do layout, A TSMC 65nm PDK
    are used in our project,

    I read Space-Based Router manual and I tried to follow the munual to
    do the configuration ,
    but it doesn't work. I don't know how to set the rules so that Space-
    Based Router can work with TSMC 65nm PDK.

    I did not get the points how to make Space-Based Router work with the
    specified PDK.

    How to configure or set the Space-Based Router so that it can work
    with TSMC 65nm PDK correctly?

    Regards,
    Erick
     
    Erick, Feb 1, 2010
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  2. Erick

    rick Guest

    Hi Erick - you might look through the PDK to see if it is supplied.
    If not, they are not the hard to set up for basic operation.
    Under the pull down there should be a setup option that will allow to
    build the rules.

    Rick
     
    rick, Feb 1, 2010
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  3. Erick

    Erick Guest

    Hi Rick,

    Thanks!

    I've looked through the PDK, But I couldn't see any info about the
    setting related to Space-Based Router, Could you show me the hint?
    I couldn't find setup option used to build the rule , is it in CIW
    menu? please show me in more details.

    Regards,
    Erick
     
    Erick, Feb 1, 2010
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  4. Erick

    rick Guest

    Hi Erick - You can get the rule builder on the layout window Router--
    Select the techLib that you are using and press OK. This pop another
    panel that can add the layers and vias which will generate
    the rule files.

    The PDK may or may not include the rule files but are usually under
    techFiles, cadence or something and will probably called something
    with icc in it. You could try a search starting at the PDK route
    directory:

    find . -name \*rul\* -print

    Rick
     
    rick, Feb 2, 2010
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  5. rick wrote, on 02/02/10 15:14:
    Rick,

    I think you're thinking of VCAR (Virtuoso Chip Assembly Router). VSR (Virtuoso
    Space-Based Router) works from constraint groups in the technology file and
    doesn't need an additional rule file.

    Erick - I would suggest contacting Cadence so that you can have an AE guide you
    through this.

    Best Regards,

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Feb 3, 2010
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  6. Erick

    Erick Guest

    Hi Rick and Andrew,

    Thanks for your help. I just made a phone call to Cadence, They said
    we need to wait for about 2 months until their engineers
    returns from other jobs. It is a bit longer to wait. Our project is
    going on and the supvisor cann't allow us to wait.

    So, any helpful idea?

    What is AE? Can I find this on Sourcelink? Could you show me the
    related stuff?

    Kind Regards,
    Erick
     
    Erick, Feb 4, 2010
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  7. Erick

    rick Guest

    Heres some info from sourcelink

    http://support.cadence.com/wps/mypo...2KrVM-3NA58Emtw!/dl3/d3/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/


    http://support.cadence.com/wps/mypo...2KrVM-3NA58Emtw!/dl3/d3/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/
     
    rick, Feb 4, 2010
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  8. Erick

    Erick Guest

    Erick, Feb 4, 2010
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  9. Erick wrote, on 02/04/10 01:07:
    Hi Eric,

    AE means "Application Engineer".

    Where are you based?

    Regards,

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Feb 5, 2010
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  10. Erick

    rick Guest

    Hi Erick - if this is CCAR, I can send you an example rule file if
    you'd like, please let me know your email address

    Rick
     
    rick, Feb 5, 2010
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  11. Erick

    Erick Guest

    Hi Rick and Andrew,

    I just sent an email to Cadence's AE in our region. hope he can help
    me.
    Thanks,

    Erick
     
    Erick, Feb 7, 2010
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  12. Erick

    Erick Guest

    Hi Rick and Andrew,

    I received two mails from Cadence's AE, I've even made a phone call to
    him. Follow to his instrution, VSR does not work. Unfortunately, he
    did not know how to configure VSR exactly. it seems it is a bit
    difficult for us to make VSR to work, Can someone pull me up from
    this?

    Maybe I shoud try CCAR, Rick, could you please send me some example
    rule files as well as the documents for setting CCAR. my mail
    address:

    erickrichardsen AT gmail DOT com

    Thanks
     
    Erick, Feb 23, 2010
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  13. Erick

    rick Guest

    Hi Erick - I have emailed you the samples.

    Rick
     
    rick, Feb 23, 2010
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  14. Erick wrote, on 02/23/10 11:43:
    Hi Erick,

    A little hard for me to set up VSR via usenet. If you can give me a little more
    detail about who you are, and what company you work for, and who the AEs you're
    in contact with, then I can see if I can get the right region to pick this up.

    You can email me directly (you should be able to work out my email address)

    Regards,

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Feb 24, 2010
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  15. Erick

    Erick Guest

    Hi Andrew,

    Sorry, I can not figure out your email address.
    Please send me a email via

    erickrichardsen AT gmail DOT com

    I will tell you the details.
     
    Erick, Feb 25, 2010
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  16. Erick wrote, on 02/25/10 10:16:
    OK. Hopefully that means that automated systems can't figure it out - it's
    pretty obvious if you remove the capital letters (and look what they spell).

    Anyway, I'll drop you an email.

    Andrew.
     
    Andrew Beckett, Feb 25, 2010
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