Has anyone modeled a ribbon cable folded over at 90 degrees so that the end result is a 90degree bend in the plane of the cable. This looks easy, but I have spent way too much time on this already. regards malcolm (fighting CADitis dily) CADitis ... wasting disease, symtoms are excessive ellaboration of CAD models beyond that which is strictly necessary, but which feels real good at the time. Especially easy to catch from 3D cad.