The help on vbe says to add a project to the projects collection (which I assume is the same as loading a dvb via vbaman load) to use the add method of the projects collection Dim oNewProj As VBProject Set oNewProj = VBE.VBProjects.Add(vbext_pt_StandAlone) this gives error runtime error 440 method add of vbprojects failed even if it succeeded I don't see how to pass it the file name to load a specific project any one tried this? I know Ed Jobe is the master of the VBE so maybe he knows? maybe this only works in vb6, not vba autocad since the constant doesn't sound right for a dvb file tia Mark Propst