HOW TO DEAL WITH SILKSCREEN

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Txedes, Feb 15, 2008.

  1. Txedes

    Txedes Guest

    I started working with Solidworks about a year ago. My company
    fabricates electrical panels that have a lot of silkscreen text on
    them.
    Our silkscreen dept needs a dxf file in order to import it into
    Coreldraw and the text needs to be font text, not lines and points.
    We thought we could go straight from Soliworks avoiding "dxf" and
    "Coreldraw" steps but the text needs to be BOLD in order to burn the
    screen; and forget about trying to do bold text with Solidworks!!...
    I am having serious problems dealing with this because I have to work
    twice creating the text in Solidworks so it is shown at the production
    drawings and then creating it AGAIN with AutoCad for the silkscreen
    Dept. This increased substancially my work load and the possibility of
    error.

    Besides I find that the text tool does not have to much flexibility
    compared to other CAD programs.

    PLEASE DOES ANYBODY HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THIS... IT IS DRIVING ME
    CRAZY!!

    Thanks.

    Txedes
     
    Txedes, Feb 15, 2008
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    mr.T Guest

    So all you need is DXF outline of some text

    This is what I would do:

    Extrude big square about size of your silk screen

    Start sketch on top face of extrusion and use sketch text from sketch entities

    Pick proper size and type of font for your text

    Extrude or cut this

    Create drawing of this model showing top view , set scale 1:1 and save this as DXF

    This work great for all 2D machines like laser cutters
     
    mr.T, Feb 15, 2008
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    mbiasotti Guest

    Txedes,

    There is a solution to your issue that we've resolved in our latest
    2008 release. I don't know what version you're on currently, but if
    you want much smooth workflow between you and your art department,
    SolidWork2008 is a must have.

    In 2008, we've built in the capability to copy sketch geometry to the
    windows clip board and then, if you have Adobe Illustrator on your
    system, you can paste it into Illustrator directly using the Windows
    Clipboard command. Our outlined text comes into Illustrator as vector
    artwork but is filled. From there, you can do pretty much anything you
    want to get it to silkscreen artwork.

    This would entail that you have SW2008 but also a copy of Adobe
    Illustrator on your's or the one in your art department receiving your
    work.

    Illustrator and PhotoShop are practically the industry standard when
    it comes to artwork and I would be surprised if your art department
    doesn't have it. If you don't, it would surely be worth it to you to
    purchase a license or network license of it from Adobe.

    Hope this helps

    Mark
     
    mbiasotti, Feb 15, 2008
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    FrankW Guest

    Hi Mark
    What's wrong with Coreldraw?
    It's industry standard for graphics also.
    That's what I use for silkscreen artworks.

    Hi Txedes
    As for creating silkscreen artworks in Solidworks.
    Forget it. Best to import the panel into coreldraw (or Adobe) and go
    from there. There is a way though but very clunky. (as you know)

    The way I do it is to create a line drawing outline (wireframe) in a
    SLDDRW, create a dxf from it then import into Corel. Edit/add the
    text/graphics/logos etc. for the silkscreen then block out (in corel)
    the panel outline.

    I know this doesn't solve the redundancy, I also wish there was a way.
    but.....oh well
    Cheers
    Frank
     
    FrankW, Feb 15, 2008
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    Txedes Guest


    First of all, thank you all for your input!

    Mr T.
    Your solution is good if I was dealing just with a little amount of
    text but with a lot of text takes forever to create a boss and the end
    result on the drawing is not a bold text it is just a contour.
    I know that I could hatch it, but I have to go LETTER BY
    LETTER!!!...too much!!!..


    Mark,
    We currently work with SW 2007. We are actually waiting since January
    to get installed 2008 but I don't know why it is taking so long to get
    it installed.
    It seems that our SW providers are hesitating....
    In any case as soon as we get it installed I would like to try what
    you suggested, but our silkscreen dept. uses just Coreldraw.

    Frank,
    We somehow follow the same steps you do. But, wouldn't it be nice to
    be able to go straight from SW?
    My concern is duplicate or even triplicate documentation... this yield
    into errors. I know that you will agree.
    I feel your pain!!

    I hope SW will come out with some better text tool in sketches in
    following versions!
     
    Txedes, Feb 18, 2008
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    mr.T Guest

    PDFs and illustrator would be my second choice

    If your budget is limited lookup ACD System products




    First of all, thank you all for your input!

    Mr T.
    Your solution is good if I was dealing just with a little amount of
    text but with a lot of text takes forever to create a boss and the end
    result on the drawing is not a bold text it is just a contour.
    I know that I could hatch it, but I have to go LETTER BY
    LETTER!!!...too much!!!..


    Mark,
    We currently work with SW 2007. We are actually waiting since January
    to get installed 2008 but I don't know why it is taking so long to get
    it installed.
    It seems that our SW providers are hesitating....
    In any case as soon as we get it installed I would like to try what
    you suggested, but our silkscreen dept. uses just Coreldraw.

    Frank,
    We somehow follow the same steps you do. But, wouldn't it be nice to
    be able to go straight from SW?
    My concern is duplicate or even triplicate documentation... this yield
    into errors. I know that you will agree.
    I feel your pain!!

    I hope SW will come out with some better text tool in sketches in
    following versions!
     
    mr.T, Feb 18, 2008
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  7. Txedes

    mr.T Guest

    One more thing...



    This may actually work



    If you need text outline with hatch why not extrude text and then make section thru it and DXF it





    First of all, thank you all for your input!

    Mr T.
    Your solution is good if I was dealing just with a little amount of
    text but with a lot of text takes forever to create a boss and the end
    result on the drawing is not a bold text it is just a contour.
    I know that I could hatch it, but I have to go LETTER BY
    LETTER!!!...too much!!!..


    Mark,
    We currently work with SW 2007. We are actually waiting since January
    to get installed 2008 but I don't know why it is taking so long to get
    it installed.
    It seems that our SW providers are hesitating....
    In any case as soon as we get it installed I would like to try what
    you suggested, but our silkscreen dept. uses just Coreldraw.

    Frank,
    We somehow follow the same steps you do. But, wouldn't it be nice to
    be able to go straight from SW?
    My concern is duplicate or even triplicate documentation... this yield
    into errors. I know that you will agree.
    I feel your pain!!

    I hope SW will come out with some better text tool in sketches in
    following versions!
     
    mr.T, Feb 18, 2008
    #7
  8. Txedes

    Txedes Guest


    Hello Mr. T

    This is what I've tried:
    I extruded the text and then on the drawing I used the "Broken-out
    Section" feature. The result is that the whole text gets hatch which
    is a step further for me!..
    Now I just need to test with the Sillkscreen dept.

    The only thing is that the text takes a little bit too long to get
    extruded and also when I try to open the files it takes about 2
    minutes to open.
    Is that normal?

    Thanks!
     
    Txedes, Feb 19, 2008
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    mr.T Guest

    Yes a lot of text will take while but it is your PC working not you (that is what I prefer)

    You may want to experiment with different fonts less curves faster it will update

    Also make sure you work in 1:1 scale and find right hatch type / scale

    And I would use section not broken-out ( I just trust some features more than others longer it is in a software more
    stable it is )



    Happy silk-screening



    Let us know how it worked out






    Hello Mr. T

    This is what I've tried:
    I extruded the text and then on the drawing I used the "Broken-out
    Section" feature. The result is that the whole text gets hatch which
    is a step further for me!..
    Now I just need to test with the Sillkscreen dept.

    The only thing is that the text takes a little bit too long to get
    extruded and also when I try to open the files it takes about 2
    minutes to open.
    Is that normal?

    Thanks!
     
    mr.T, Feb 19, 2008
    #9
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    iQ Guest

    first do not expect your CAD program to do everything that you need
    done, although it would be nice. you can force it to do the job and
    kind of make it work but you will spend more time doing this and it
    will cause you nothing but problems. if you need to provide something
    to support a manufacturing process then give them exactally what they
    want, do it in their program. if the item needs to be in coreldraw do
    the item in coreldraw. you can then make a rough representation in
    your CAD program and do the real item in Coreldraw. yes this will
    create a file management item that you will need to support but the
    end result is that you are in control of the design, and in this case
    it is the screenprinted artwork. this way you will know what you will
    be recieving because you are driving the result.

    Doing engineering work does not mean you do everything in your CAD
    program. Doing engineering work means that you are in control of the
    design, use the right software to insure the output is to your design
    intent. Use the right tool for the job. iQ
     
    iQ, Feb 19, 2008
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