hole feature depth

Can't remember if I asked this before, but in rel 2001 if you create a
clearance hole feature (not a cut) it always goes 'through all', i.e. you
cannot control the depth to a dimension or a surface. For instance, if you
place a hole in one leg of a channel section, it goes through both legs
whether you like it or not. Have they fixed this in WF?

Dave

 

Can't remember if I asked this before, but in rel 2001 if you create a

It offers the same termination options that are available for
an extrude feature.

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: > Can't remember if I asked this before, but in rel 2001 if you create a
: > clearance hole feature (not a cut) it always goes 'through all', ........
: > .............
: > Have they fixed this in WF?
:
: It offers the same termination options that are available for
: an extrude feature.
:
Yes, that's true for the straight and standard type holes. Up to next plane,
surface or point is an option. In this situation, the only small limitation is
that thread depth calls out only the 'variable' depth. The 'thru thread' radio
button is grayed out. Also, somewhat confusing, if you put US Customary holes
(UNC/UNF) in a part with ISO metric units, diameters are in US Customary but
depths remain in metric.

David Janes

 

: > Can't remember if I asked this before, but in rel 2001 if you create a
: > clearance hole feature (not a cut) it always goes 'through all', ........
: > .............
: > Have they fixed this in WF?
:
: It offers the same termination options that are available for
: an extrude feature.
:
Yes, that's true for the straight and standard type holes. Up to next plane,
surface or point is an option. In this situation, the only small limitation is
that thread depth calls out only the 'variable' depth. The 'thru thread' radio
button is grayed out. Also, somewhat confusing, if you put US Customary holes
(UNC/UNF) in a part with ISO metric units, diameters are in US Customary but
depths remain in metric. This may have always been that way and I just noticed it.

David Janes

 

You mean it displays mixed units? 1/4 unc x 1/2 deep becomes 0.25 dia by
12.7 deep?

In rel 2001 hole features are practically unusable due to the depth
limitations.

 

Yes, and two releases further, it's still not solved. Bravo PTC!
And I am sure that you aren't the only one complaining about this
feature. Howcome PTC doesn't listen to it's users? I can name a lot more
of these incomplete functions which just don't get fixed.

 

:
: : > : > : > Can't remember if I asked this before, but in rel 2001 if you create a
: > : > clearance hole feature (not a cut) it always goes 'through all',
: ........
: > : > .............
: > : > Have they fixed this in WF?
: > :
: > : It offers the same termination options that are available for
: > : an extrude feature.
: > :
: > Yes, that's true for the straight and standard type holes. Up to next
: plane,
: > surface or point is an option. In this situation, the only small
: limitation is
: > that thread depth calls out only the 'variable' depth. The 'thru thread'
: radio
: > button is grayed out. Also, somewhat confusing, if you put US Customary
: holes
: > (UNC/UNF) in a part with ISO metric units, diameters are in US Customary
: but
: > depths remain in metric. This may have always been that way and I just
: noticed it.
: >
:
: You mean it displays mixed units? 1/4 unc x 1/2 deep becomes 0.25 dia by
: 12.7 deep?
:
Yep, you got it, mixed units. The confusing thing is that it doesn't say what the
units are. I noticed this because I put in, for the depth, .5 and the thread
disappeared. Then I figured out that the depth numbers must still be in metric.
This is the only "limitation" that I know of and if you skip the goofy U.S.
Customary conglomeration of units and stick to straight ISO, you'll never even see
it. All the depth options work fine as Jeff pointed out, duplicating extrusion
depth options. Now, if they can just keep it that way.

DJ

 

: You mean it displays mixed units? 1/4 unc x 1/2 deep becomes 0.25 dia by

Maybe I'm confused. It's something like
M 5x.5 ISO-H TAP{depth sym} 0.50
4.5 DRILL (0.177) {depth sym} 0.75

The depths are in inches, which for an inch part going into an inch drawing,
is how I want it.
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Maybe I'm confused.

Yup. I was. David actually said

So, its
1/2-13 UNC -2B {depth sym}36.00
27/64 DRILL (10.72) {depth sym} 50.00

Still the way I'd expect it, but then I only do inch stuff.

 

: > : You mean it displays mixed units? 1/4 unc x 1/2 deep becomes 0.25 dia by
: > : 12.7 deep?
: > :
: > Yep, you got it, mixed units. The confusing thing is that it doesn't say
: what the
: > units are.
:
: Maybe I'm confused. It's something like
: M 5x.5 ISO-H TAP{depth sym} 0.50
: 4.5 DRILL (0.177) {depth sym} 0.75
:
: The depths are in inches, which for an inch part going into an inch drawing,
: is how I want it.

Quite true. Then you're not confused and it's working just fine. Especially when
these numbers appear on a drawing and no units are specified for the depth, the
ANSI standard says you have to assume that the units specified on the drawing are
in use. But back up a step to the model where all the values for 'Shape' are
specified. You usually have to get in there to deal with the countersink anyway,
because I've never yet seen it get the countersink diameter right. All these
diameter dimensions for your ISO hole are in metric but how about the depth.
Unless you're really sharp, I don't think it's too hard to get confused and think
that the depth dimension is also in metric. No reason it has to be and, in fact,
it follows model units. I just think it would be clearer if the input box for
depth showed the units. Not a bid deal, just something I think could be clearer
when you're in a situation of mixed units.

David Janes