Help with joining

You're not missing anything, Ric.

I think it was a matter of not knowing how the basic functions of the program work.

She seems to be a quilter (another acolyte, Ann) and she was trying to create a
design in AS for this endeavor. At least that's my guess.

It wouldn't surprise me if she's back here to ask a few questions after she's had
a chance to read through the Getting Started file.

Cute stuff.

H

 

Her drawing was created using the sketch polyline......
She was going through all the correct steps.

The Problem IS -- "maxium number of points already exist" was a message
that appeared while attempting 'trim join.'

She knew how to 'translate', that was not her problem. She wanted everything
'trim joined'

Dave

 

Yep.

That's the way *I* read it also, David. I didn't spot the maximum part. That could
have been the problem. I was hoping that exploding would help her. But it seems not.

In any event, I don't think we've heard the last from her. And this is the longest
thread in the AS newsgroup that *I've* seen since I began lurking, about 5 or 6
years ago. What could be bad?

People get interesting information even from answers that don't solve the problem
at hand.

H

 

Paul,

When you complete the print run for your book, and it's available, please post
that on the newsgroup.

Hopefully you had someone familiar with the English language proof same before
this printing.

Harvey, galley-reader to the Stars.

 

Nope you've not heard the last of me yet LOL!!! I am a quilter and I think Dave understands what I'm trying to do. I do understand the basics. I've worked with Corel, Fireworks, and a few other graphics programs and really am not having problems with the basic functions of AutoSketch.

What I am trying to do however cannot happen in AutoSketch. I think it must have something to do maybe with my overlapping lines and maybe my points. I thought I could get around my CAD drawing inadequacies by doing polylines using a Intuos2 Pen and Tablet but I see that I'll have to go and teach myself to use the arcs more and hopefully that will not create so many polylines when converted.

About the number of responses to this post...... this is interesting that this could cause so many responses LOL!!! I also own/developed a site with forums on it and it's not uncommon at all to have 15-30 replys to a post. I guess there must be more quilters than AutoSketch users. Either that or women are more talkative then men LOL!!! One of my members just celebrated her 1000 post!!!!

I appreciate all the time and attention you all have given to me and my problem. I think I just might have hit upon something however that AutoSketch is not capible of doing. I won't fight the program anymore and will work on the other end of system with the machine software programer.

Thanks again,
Linda Lawson
www.LongarmChat.com




My program for my computerized quilting machine requires the line is continuous and the ONLY way to achieve this is to "trim-join". I did see that maximum number of points was coming up and didn't really know what that was about. If that is causing me the problems, I have no idea how to change that and can not find anything about that in the manual or the word document Harvey sent me. I wondered if this was related to "rubber band entities" and set that up to meet the number of points in my design just in case. That obviously didn't make a difference.

I'm to the point now in working with the quilting machine's programer and seeing if there could be a way to just join the elements with end points and not having to actually "join" them. I actually have this working but the machine stops at every place that I've tried to join. Not a big deal but this needs to be changed.

 

Linda,

Why don't you zip up your AS drawing and download it as an attachment, to the
AutoDesk Customer Files area. Title it appropriately so we can find it. Reference
it here if you wish.

Let some of the whizzers here take a look and maybe there are simple entities that
can be substituted for the polylines such that TrimJoining will work out.

You can access the CF area from
http://discussion.autodesk.com/index2.jspa?categoryID=39 where you can add it to
your mailer/newreader (NNTP) or use your browser directly. I prefer the former.
Your choice.

Harvey

 

Ah well, Linda,

This really should be in the CF area, Ann may move it there. But I've DL-ed it
from here. When opportunity strikes I'll noodle around with it. If Len, Paul, Ric
or others see it here, maybe they'll do the same.

Stay tuned for further announcements. And your check is in the mail.

H

 

Linda

I think Dave's observation about exceeding maximum points is the major
problem here. There does not appear to be a way to increase the number of
points available, but you can decrease the number of points the polyline
uses. Go to Tools>Drawing Options>Drawing>Polyline Sketch Units and
increase the number here will reduce the number of polylines. (Click on the
? at the top of the dialog box and click on the entry box will show a help
message about this.) The major problem is, can you increase the number
enough to allow joining without making the drawing two jagged to be
acceptable?
Overlapping lines will interfere with joining, but only where they overlap.
You can still join to parts of a line that are not overlapped.

Rod

Dave understands what I'm trying to do. I do understand the basics. I've
worked with Corel, Fireworks, and a few other graphics programs and really
am not having problems with the basic functions of AutoSketch.

must have something to do maybe with my overlapping lines and maybe my
points. I thought I could get around my CAD drawing inadequacies by doing
polylines using a Intuos2 Pen and Tablet but I see that I'll have to go and
teach myself to use the arcs more and hopefully that will not create so many
polylines when converted.

this could cause so many responses LOL!!! I also own/developed a site with
forums on it and it's not uncommon at all to have 15-30 replys to a post. I
guess there must be more quilters than AutoSketch users. Either that or
women are more talkative then men LOL!!! One of my members just celebrated
her 1000 post!!!!

oblem. I think I just might have hit upon something however that AutoSketch
is not capible of doing. I won't fight the program anymore and will work on
the other end of system with the machine software programer.

continuous and the ONLY way to achieve this is to "trim-join". I did see
that maximum number of points was coming up and didn't really know what that
was about. If that is causing me the problems, I have no idea how to change
that and can not find anything about that in the manual or the word document
Harvey sent me. I wondered if this was related to "rubber band entities"
and set that up to meet the number of points in my design just in case.
That obviously didn't make a difference.

seeing if there could be a way to just join the elements with end points and
not having to actually "join" them. I actually have this working but the
machine stops at every place that I've tried to join. Not a big deal but
this needs to be changed.

 

Linda,

Lemme make a suggestion:

Draw one quarter of your design using polyline, say the top left. Drag-Select it,
r-click and Group. Then use the Mirror tool with an approrpriate EndPoint to draw
another quarter. Type V or H depending on how yhou Mirror.

You should now have half the drawing. Drag-Select both, Group it and Mirror that
for the entire design.

No joining should be necessary.

I did that with your drawing and it seemed totally joined. The issue is it's
SYMMETRIC! Symmetric quilts aren't necessarily esthetic and you may not want that.
Best I could do.

I think Rod's suggestion was right as usual, but the design would be a bit cranky.

Another suggestion. Get the drawing close to what you want with the polyline, and
then use the Fitted Curve tool, tracing over your drawing. Then delete the
polyline. The curves will be quite smooth. I did that with your drawing as it was
presented. Seemed to work...

Yeah I think I'd use the last. You don't even need to use the polyline, just the
Fitted Curve tool.

Harvey

 

Welcome back Harvey! Attachments up to 1 meg are now allowed in
all discussion groups. Zipping is alway appreciated for those
users who are still on phone modems.
--
Anne Brown
Discussion Groups Administrator
Autodesk, Inc.

Anne

 

I'd be interested in anyone else's notions as an alternative suggestion, yet
another way to skin the cat (goodness knows how this ever became an expression). I
think that the Fitted Curve oughta work out.

Rod?

H

 

Ahhhh, times have changed, Anne.

This 1Meg business being the case, I suspect you're now on cable or DSL - or you
oughta be by now. Otherwise you couldn't possibly parse 30 or more groups.

And you should see Linda's quilt design. She's using CAD to do it! Pretty nifty.

Why wouldn't I be surprised if I heard that you weren't using CAD for *your*
designs? I think you're too pristine for that - has to be pencil, paper and a few
drafting tools from days of yore, if you can find them in the scut of the Maine
woodlands.

H

<duckingandrunning>

 

We've got lots of paper mills up here so sketch paper abounds.
However I DO use ACAD to draft quilt patterns or fortunately have
much better versed ACAD folks at my beck and call (read that as
husband).

I love ARRAY! <G>

Anne

 

Linda,

You might want to send this loverly jpg to Anne (our moderator) directly, in case
she doesn't see it. She's a heavy-duty quilter and organizer of some note. I've
seen her work, not trivial.

May be that you two would have an interesting interaction.

Just a thought.

BTW, nice work! Your compuquilter does a nifty job. And how did you eventually
handle this?

H

 

Linda -

GORGEOUS piece of whole cloth work. My hands are such that I can
no longer do hand quilting but can use my Bernina to do most
machine quilting I want. Excellent pattern work.

Anne

 

ALL very nice ladies & a credit to both of you......but where are the
elevations, sections & reflected ceiling plans, hmmmm....!!!!???

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