Help with house plans

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Jason Rhymes, Jun 8, 2004.

  1. Jason Rhymes

    Jason Rhymes Guest

    Sorry to bother everyone with my ignorance, but I was wondering if anyone,
    that does house plans on a regular bases, could take a look at my house
    plans and see if I'm even close to doing it correct. I do mostly mechanical
    drawings and don't know too much on the architectural side. I figured I
    could draw my own house up for a change of pace. Didn't know what I was in
    for. Anyway, I think I'm pretty close (80-85%) and would like some pointers
    or suggestions from the pros. If you would like to help on this mistake of
    me think I could do architectural work, please email my at
    jason@(NOSPAM)deltank.com

    I'll give you an ftp to download it (too large to post).

    Thanks in advanced

    Jason Rhymes
     
    Jason Rhymes, Jun 8, 2004
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  2. Jason Rhymes

    Jason Rhymes Guest

    Thanks Matt,
    Good point. I do have a few people I'll be able to contacted here for local
    codes and regs. I'm looking more in the way of general design practices. I'm
    Lafayette, Louisiana.
     
    Jason Rhymes, Jun 8, 2004
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  3. Jason,
    Post it in Customer Files section and I'll look at it for you. Matt is
    correct about you area also.

    Cecil
     
    Detailing Dude, Jun 8, 2004
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    Walt Engle Guest

    Why can't you zip it and post?
     
    Walt Engle, Jun 8, 2004
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  5. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I'm on 2000i, so make sure I can open it if you
    want me to look at it.

    Cecil
     
    Detailing Dude, Jun 8, 2004
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  6. Jason Rhymes

    Jason Rhymes Guest

    It's 4,600KB after purging and zipping. Couldn't help myself, had to do it
    in 3D.
     
    Jason Rhymes, Jun 8, 2004
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    Matt Guest

    Well....on the general end of this area (SW Fla) houses can be pretty basic:

    1. Foundation Plan - Footers, slab info (soil in certain areas), beam info
    and struct details
    2. Dimensioned Floor Plan
    3. Elevations
    4. Typical details (wall section, buck details, strapping details
    ((sometimes on foundation/structural sheet)
    5. Electrical Plan (basic lights, switching and power riser info)

    It's been my experience (again, locally) that the building department is
    less strict on residential than they are on commercial. On another level
    they can be more lenient with owner/builders than they are with dumba**
    architect or contractors (not a shot leveled at anyone other than idiots
    ) ) so you may get more help from them than you would on one of your
    typical projects. I may have missed a small detail but thats a general list
    for here - your most important criteria (truss strapping, structural) stuff
    should have a final look through by a local expert.

    Matt
     
    Matt, Jun 8, 2004
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  8. Jason Rhymes

    Jason Rhymes Guest

    I didn't really find 4.6 meg large. Well it's large to download but I'm used
    to working with 50-150meg drawings all day so I thought it was reasonable,
    just can't get it any smaller. It's mostly 3d solids with line work created
    w/ soldraw.
     
    Jason Rhymes, Jun 8, 2004
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    OLD-CADaver Guest

    <<I didn't really find 4.6 meg large. ... I'm used
    to working with 50-150meg drawings >>

    Pretty much the same here. We'll break 5 meg on the preliminary layout models that have very little detail in them.
     
    OLD-CADaver, Jun 8, 2004
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    Jason Rhymes Guest

    LOL... My dwt is 5 megs...for my structural drawings anyway.
     
    Jason Rhymes, Jun 8, 2004
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    Walt Engle Guest

    Most architectural plans are 2D - plan, elevations, etc, unless using
    Architectural Desktop. Think you confounded yourself with 3D - looks great but
    does it get the job done quickly?
     
    Walt Engle, Jun 8, 2004
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  12. Jason Rhymes

    Jason Rhymes Guest

    Now that I did one and have everything set up, I could do it much, much
    quicker the next time. I can't see how you would get it accurate any other
    way. Of course, I'm very comfortable in 3d, so that helps, but had to draw
    up all my windows and doors in 3d from scratch. That ate up a lot of time.
    It's nice when you have a 3d model of it, when you move a window or a door,
    it moves in all the views. Less chance of errors.
     
    Jason Rhymes, Jun 8, 2004
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    Walt Engle Guest

    This is where Architectural Desktop comes in - want a window? It's right there
    and you can re-size it or use the default. Want a door? Same thing. Want to
    move a window or door? Just move them and apply the distance. All automatic and
    while it is 3D, IT IS NOT A SOLID (which eats up ram).
    Want furniture? Appliances? Utilities? All included and many, many more.
     
    Walt Engle, Jun 8, 2004
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    Walt Engle Guest

    P.S. ARchitectural Desktop also provides the proper valleys for a roof. Just
    supply the overhang and height. Presto - done.
     
    Walt Engle, Jun 8, 2004
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    OLD-CADaver Guest

    <<All automatic and while it is 3D, IT IS NOT A SOLID (which eats up ram). >>

    Eats up RAM???


    <<Want furniture? Appliances? Utilities? >>

    Well if all we did was archie stuff I might consider spending the money. But until they come up with a STRUCTURAL desktop, and an Industrial Piping Desktop, and an Underground Piping desktop, an Electrical Desktop we'll stay with what we have.
     
    OLD-CADaver, Jun 8, 2004
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    Allen Jessup Guest

    <snip>
    I can't see how you would get it accurate any other way.
    <snip>

    Oh! That explains why... No never mind. Self edit.
     
    Allen Jessup, Jun 9, 2004
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    Jason Rhymes Guest

    Okay, I'll post the ftp to the file here since my email seems to be acting
    up.
    ftp://66.147.53.58/
     
    Jason Rhymes, Jun 9, 2004
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    jackshield Guest

    ok, i have nothing to add but opion.
    i bought a house in aug 2003, it was repo from bank.
    it is 1956 house relocated there in 1987.
    from old 2 wire electrical system to crappy copper plumbing that replced the lead pipes, i have many projects going, all in some stage. i have begun 3d model of structure, 3d everything. that drawing has already been used to plan outdoor projects, and currently spliting up projects based on cost. the only 3d face is the terrain surrounding the house.
    it unbelievable large, specially for the computer at home it is being done on. i would nt want to do it any other way, i like the bennies of solids, even if it means i must deal with larger files sizes.
     
    jackshield, Jun 10, 2004
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    Homerloew Guest

    Jason,

    I am willing to look at your plans and help you out. I grew up with at hammer in my hand, a few years back I traded the hammer for a computer mouse.

    I will say a few things about residential plans. I don't mean to offend anyone, I apologize if I do. Most people that draw residential plans do not understand what the builder needs, nor have they ever been involved in the building process other than the paper. This goes for the cad tech at a lumber yard to an Architect.

    3D may look cool, however when you hand the plans to your builder he is going to want a set of 2D plans; with plenty of ACCURATE dimensions, rooms and hallways that make sense, and be easy to read and understand.

    There is a fine line between too much and not enough information.

    I am unable to access your plans. If you would like, e-mail them to me and I will give my 2 cents.

    don
     
    Homerloew, Jun 10, 2004
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  20. Jason Rhymes

    jackshield Guest

    just because someone models a plan in 3d doesnt mean they wont be able to produce a valid, accurate set of 2d drawings.
    its a matter of discipline:
    i sent a set of drawings for a pit in which equipment would be placed to a firm for pe. they changed numbers, but not the entities, their manual math was flawed, if i hadnt caught it, would have lost major bucks on job.
    3d is great for design purposes, in any discipline. a 2d final product can be produced very easy, and modified and re-produced just as easy.
     
    jackshield, Jun 10, 2004
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