Help - Swept Profiles

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Roger, Apr 26, 2004.

  1. Roger

    Roger Guest

    Hi,

    I don't recall having this problem before upgrading to SW2004SP3, can anyone
    help.

    Put simply I have a profile swept around an ellipse - no problem so far. But
    when I create a drawing and section the part in order to dimension the
    profile it seems it can't be done. When I click the dimension cursor on an
    edge it hi-lites the whole perimeter of the profile and I get a message
    saying 'the selected entity could not be converted into a line or a circular
    arc'. Any of you wise-ones know the work around for this.

    Regards .. Roger
     
    Roger, Apr 26, 2004
    #1
  2. It seems/seams like SW is unable to extract a silhouette or profile from
    the face so, you will have to manually get/reference a intersection
    curve or silhouette split the surface or make the sketch visible to
    dimension and workaround this?

    ...
     
    Paul Salvador, Apr 26, 2004
    #2
  3. Roger

    Andrew Troup Guest

    Roger

    This is normal

    You will have to add to your drawing view sketch points with a coincident
    relation to the profile, (and possibly construction lines, which you can
    subsequently hide), and dimension to those defined points. Otherwise SldWks
    cannot get a handle on where on the profile you want to dimension to. In the
    case of a sweep around an ellipse, the profile at any point other than the
    plane of the starting profile will be a spline, even if in theory it should
    be something more primitive, like a conic section.
    Even at the starting section, the cross section of the actual solid feature
    will have been approximated by a spline- the modelling kernel cannot mix
    analytic and algorithmic geometry (the former based on simple equations, the
    latter on NURB splines)
    Consequently there will be no "quadrant points" available as there would be
    for a circle or other primitive shape.
     
    Andrew Troup, Apr 26, 2004
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  4. Sometimes its hard, but it is a good policy to predict the needs of the
    drawing while you are modeling. For instance, if at all possible, the sweep
    profile (the start/end of the sweep) should coincide with the section.
    This way you can just bring the dims from the profile into the drawing
    (using 'insert model items' on a feature by feature basis) and you can avoid
    all of the issues Andrew mentions.
    The same goes for sweep paths - put the path where the drawing/manufacturing
    dims belong. For some silly reason, a majority of files I see from the
    outside of my company have the sweep path go right through the center of the
    profile. If the part will be dimmed to its outside (bend radiuses for wire,
    for instance), then the path should be on the outside so you can model
    functionally and just bring the sketch dimensions into the drawing.

    Gene Dimonte created a presentation for SolidWorks World about modeling
    functionally for the drawing. the powerpoint is available at
    www.dimontegroup.com. Its really the way to go.
     
    Edward T Eaton, Apr 26, 2004
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  5. Roger

    Roger Guest

    Hi Edward,

    Coinciding the section with the 'start/end' of the sweep and 'inserting
    model items' did it, all the dimensions I needed appeared.
    Great thanks, now I can get on and earn some more $$$$.

    Regards ... Roger
     
    Roger, Apr 26, 2004
    #5
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