I am progressing from LT98 to 2004. In 98 I select objects and hit the group button to create an unnamed group. To ungroup I select the group(s) and hit the ungroup button. 2004 makes me name a group and then select objects ( or go for an un named group).... cumbersome. To ungroup it's worse, you have to name the group you want to undo, and the enquiry to find a group's name will list all groups selected... If you are using nested groups you don't know what you are ungrouping. Are there scripts / macros that I can run in custom group + ungroup buttons to get LT98's grouping method to work in 2004. -- Jonathan Barnes's theorem; for every foolproof device there is a fool greater than the proof. To reply remove AT