In autocad 2002 LT I created a button to group and ungroup the seclection. One click and the selections were grouped together. Since migrating to 2004 I have not been able to do this, and the macro is not supported for the shortcut. Can anyone point me in the right direction. The macros used were GROUP ^C^C_pkstgroup;*; UNGROUP ^C^C__qkungroup many thanks