Group Policy Deployment - .NET Framework

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Jenna, Jun 25, 2004.

  1. Jenna

    Jenna Guest

    I'm using a group policy deployment to deploy ACAD 2005 within my office.
    I've run into a problem where the automated ACAD install is failing on those
    computers that do not yet have .NET 1.1 on them. When installing AutoCAD
    manually, it detects this and installs it for you if you don't have it, so I
    was hoping the automated install would work similarly, but that doesn't seem
    to be the case.
    Anyway, so I figure I have to add .NET as another group policy element. I
    found the dotnetfx.exe file within the AdminImage folder, but I know I have
    to use an .msi file for group policy. Can anyone tell me how to extract the
    msi from the dotnetfx.exe, if it's possible.
    Thanks!
     
    Jenna, Jun 25, 2004
    #1
  2. Hi Jenna,

    Rather then use a Group Policy to install .NET (Microsoft component) why not
    just add a run once login script and install it that way. Then let your
    Group Policy run for AutoCAD. MS does not supply the MSI for .NET. They
    want you to use the EXE. You may be able to find out more on there WEB Site
    though.

    Hope this helps.

    Bud Schroeder
    AutoCAD Test Development
    Autodesk Inc.
     
    Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.], Jun 25, 2004
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  3. Jenna

    Jenna Guest

    That's what I thought from reading the materials on the MS website (that
    they wanted you to use the exe).
    I do use the login script for certain things, but I don't know how to do a
    run once install with it. How does that work? What will it do with
    machines that already have it? I assume it can run silently, but can it run
    under a power user profile, as that is what permissions all our users have?
     
    Jenna, Jun 25, 2004
    #3
  4. Hi Jenna,

    No, you will need administrative rights on each system. The run once and
    run are part of your options in setting up a script. The difference is what
    location it writes to in the registry. What you may want to search for on
    the MS site are details on deploying .NET. Also .NET was part of there
    update process so you could use that process as well.

    As far as it already being installed, it just won't install. The EXE is a
    wrapper for there installer and it will detect if it is there or not.

    Hope this helps.

    Bud
     
    Bud Schroeder [Autodesk Inc.], Jun 25, 2004
    #4
  5. Jenna

    Jenna Guest

    Thanks very much for your help and the info....I think it may be just as
    fast for me in this case to do a quick run around to the computers that need
    it and do a Windows Update as administrator (I don't think there are that
    many). If I miss any, I'll just catch them when the user complains that
    AutoCAD 2005 didn't install :)
    Thanks!
     
    Jenna, Jun 25, 2004
    #5
  6. Jenna,

    Just for reference and for anyone else reading this post, Microsoft have
    details on deploying the .NET Framework via GPO here if it is of any use:

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323886

    The problem I found however is that you cannot control the order a Software
    Installation GPO is applied therefore you would have to configure and deploy
    the .NET package before attempting to deploy AutoCAD.
     
    Simon Gillis \(Autodesk Product Support\), Jun 29, 2004
    #6
  7. Jenna

    David Allen Guest

    looking at your graphic, where is that program?
    viewing GPO in 2003 AD looks a little different.

    "Thomas Nsssrallah" <>
    |>Simon,
    |>
    |>You can control the software installation order by the link order of the
    |>GPO's within the container. I deploy my apps one per GPO. In the attached
    |>image, the GPO for LDT has the lowest link order and will install first
    |>while the GPO for Civil 3D has highest link order and will install last.
    |>You can modify the link order by using the arrows just to the left of the
    |>link order column.
    |>
    |>Tom N
    |>
    |>message |>> Jenna,
    |>>
    |>> Just for reference and for anyone else reading this post, Microsoft have
    |>> details on deploying the .NET Framework via GPO here if it is of any use:
    |>>
    |>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323886
    |>>
    |>> The problem I found however is that you cannot control the order a
    |>Software
    |>> Installation GPO is applied therefore you would have to configure and
    |>deploy
    |>> the .NET package before attempting to deploy AutoCAD.
    |>>
    |>> --
    |>> Simon Gillis
    |>> Autodesk Product Support
    |>>
    |>>
    |>> "Jenna" <stilesj AT meachamapel DOT com> wrote in message
    |>> |>> > Thanks very much for your help and the info....I think it may be just as
    |>> > fast for me in this case to do a quick run around to the computers that
    |>> need
    |>> > it and do a Windows Update as administrator (I don't think there are
    |>that
    |>> > many). If I miss any, I'll just catch them when the user complains that
    |>> > AutoCAD 2005 didn't install :)
    |>> > Thanks!
    |>> >
    |>> > message |>> > > Hi Jenna,
    |>> > >
    |>> > > No, you will need administrative rights on each system. The run once
    |>> and
    |>> > > run are part of your options in setting up a script. The difference
    |>is
    |>> > what
    |>> > > location it writes to in the registry. What you may want to search
    |>for
    |>> on
    |>> > > the MS site are details on deploying .NET. Also .NET was part of
    |>there
    |>> > > update process so you could use that process as well.
    |>> > >
    |>> > > As far as it already being installed, it just won't install. The EXE
    |>is
    |>> a
    |>> > > wrapper for there installer and it will detect if it is there or not.
    |>> > >
    |>> > > Hope this helps.
    |>> > >
    |>> > > Bud
    |>> > >
    |>> > >
    |>> > > "Jenna" <stilesj AT meachamapel DOT com> wrote in message
    |>> > > |>> > > > That's what I thought from reading the materials on the MS website
    |>> (that
    |>> > > > they wanted you to use the exe).
    |>> > > > I do use the login script for certain things, but I don't know how
    |>to
    |>> do
    |>> > a
    |>> > > > run once install with it. How does that work? What will it do with
    |>> > > > machines that already have it? I assume it can run silently, but
    |>can
    |>> it
    |>> > > run
    |>> > > > under a power user profile, as that is what permissions all our
    |>users
    |>> > > have?
    |>> > > >
    |>in
    |>> > > > message |>> > > > > Hi Jenna,
    |>> > > > >
    |>> > > > > Rather then use a Group Policy to install .NET (Microsoft
    |>component)
    |>> > why
    |>> > > > not
    |>> > > > > just add a run once login script and install it that way. Then
    |>let
    |>> > your
    |>> > > > > Group Policy run for AutoCAD. MS does not supply the MSI for
    |>.NET.
    |>> > > They
    |>> > > > > want you to use the EXE. You may be able to find out more on
    |>there
    |>> > WEB
    |>> > > > Site
    |>> > > > > though.
    |>> > > > >
    |>> > > > > Hope this helps.
    |>> > > > >
    |>> > > > > Bud Schroeder
    |>> > > > > AutoCAD Test Development
    |>> > > > > Autodesk Inc.
    |>> > > > >
    |>> > > > > "Jenna" <stilesj AT meachamapel DOT com> wrote in message
    |>> > > > > |>> > > > > > I'm using a group policy deployment to deploy ACAD 2005 within
    |>my
    |>> > > > office.
    |>> > > > > > I've run into a problem where the automated ACAD install is
    |>> failing
    |>> > on
    |>> > > > > those
    |>> > > > > > computers that do not yet have .NET 1.1 on them. When
    |>installing
    |>> > > > AutoCAD
    |>> > > > > > manually, it detects this and installs it for you if you don't
    |>> have
    |>> > > it,
    |>> > > > so
    |>> > > > > I
    |>> > > > > > was hoping the automated install would work similarly, but that
    |>> > > doesn't
    |>> > > > > seem
    |>> > > > > > to be the case.
    |>> > > > > > Anyway, so I figure I have to add .NET as another group policy
    |>> > > element.
    |>> > > > I
    |>> > > > > > found the dotnetfx.exe file within the AdminImage folder, but I
    |>> know
    |>> > I
    |>> > > > > have
    |>> > > > > > to use an .msi file for group policy. Can anyone tell me how to
    |>> > > extract
    |>> > > > > the
    |>> > > > > > msi from the dotnetfx.exe, if it's possible.
    |>> > > > > > Thanks!
    |>> > > > > >
    |>> > > > > >
    |>> > > > >
    |>> > > > >
    |>> > > >
    |>> > > >
    |>> > >
    |>> > >
    |>> >
    |>> >
    |>>
    |>>
    |>


    David
     
    David Allen, Aug 26, 2004
    #7
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