Good instruction books for newbies/interns @ BAE

Hello all,
We have a bunch of new semi-worthless interns that need to know
rudimentary Pro-E. Any suggestions on tutorials available on Amazon or
elsewhere on-line? Thanks to all.
Bob

 

Well at least they're not totally worthless.

Anything by Roger Toogood, Amazon has a good selection of his stuff.
Also SDC http://www.schroff.com has lots to offer.


Andy

 

It's one thing to learn ProE but it's another to learn how to engineer
a part, e.g. how to dimension a sketch to take account of the way the
part is used and/or assembled. You'll have to actually convince them
that the dimensions intent manager puts there are almost always not
the ones you want.

 

Hello all,
We have a bunch of new semi-worthless interns that need to know
rudimentary Pro-E. Any suggestions on tutorials available on Amazon or
elsewhere on-line? Thanks to all.
Bob

Don't be cheap, send them to school, the week-long intro course to Pro/e, offered at any community college, in any civilized place, in the country (America, US of). The problem with the cheap and dirty "solutions" is that they depend heavily, if not mainly, on the initiative, self-directedness, maturity of the people taking the courses to complete them on their own, to figure things out for themselves, to think critically and analytically, to have certain basic skills in troubleshooting modeling problems (or any mechanical, physical problems). And your newbies/interns are, by your own statement, lacking on most of these fronts. They need a structured learning environment, the help and support of an expert at teaching and modeling and, FINALLY, good learning material. But the best learning material is crap without the right learning environment. And, Bob, your contemptuous attitude your charges certainly tells me that, in your tender care, they might as well slit their own throats. Because if they don't do it, you seem to be more than willing. Possibly other posts here on help, tutorials, support might give a hint of further resources. Check the archives.

David Janes

BTW, Bob, before you get your back up that I don't know the deplorable state of engineering education or that graduating engineers know nothing practical or that they get computers, software and are told to design without knowing the first thing about the software, how to make things or even about design.... well, I WROTE that song 20 years ago, about the time we started, in a big way, shipping our manufacturig jobs abroad because American workers wanted wages and benefits and job security. IOW, to be on about 75% par with their Eruopean counterparts. Our workers were defeated, the jobs are gone, the "new semi-worthless intern" is the result, but don't take it out on them. As to the question, on whom to take out ones anger and contempt, study politics and history. Not much of that here though.

DJ

 

Spend the tiny investment and get them each one of the books from
cadquest.com

I instructed for Steve for most of a year and honestly those books say
what an instructor needs to say but better and more than can be lectured
in a 5-day course. He covers design intent, sketcher intent mangler
(manager), etc in a seriously useful manner.

Dave

 

"to be on about 75% par with their European counterparts"

I think that's a bit cynical, as high Eurozone taxes & retail prices
still give US citizens more buying power than most Europeans (except
the Swiss, obviously, who are still living on Nazi gold & cuckoo
clocks) - It's just the dollar is a bit soft at the moment.