Gates is Out & MS is Stalled

Roughly Drafted has a long an insightful article on what MS has failed
to achieve of late which was highlighted in the failure of HD-DVD,
amongst a dozen HUGE MS expenditures.

Microsoft has lost it.

How long before Vista2 crashes and burns?

How long before SolidWorks needs another OS to keep it afloat?

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/02/21/lessons-from-the-death-of-hd-dvd/#more-1563

Bo

 

How long before SolidWorks needs another OS to keep it afloat?

How long before more SolidWorks users demand quick and easy control
over every SolidWorks part and assembly that they come in contact
with?

http://machinedesign.com/ContentItem/68359/HowwasthatmodelbuiltSoftwaretellsall.aspx

"Designers often rebuild designs from scratch rather than spend time
to understand how models were built."

"Have you ever had to edit an assembly or a part designed by someone
else, or change a model you designed a long time ago?

If so, you know how difficult it is to decipher the mate relationships
in assemblies and dependencies between part features. That's because
modern solid modeling lets users create complex relationships, without
even being aware they are doing so. For example, a user might add a
fillet, which generates relationships between the arc of the fillet
and the features that created the edges.

Editing models can thus lead to unpredictable results, such as lost
design intent or features that fail when rebuilding models. SolidMap
software works with SolidWorks to provide intuitive graphical maps of
model interdependencies. It makes editing models simpler and faster."

How can SolidWorks be a far better tool than IronCAD if it doesn't
allow a user to have easy and full control over their parts and
assemblies?

Jon Banquer
San Diego,CA

 

Well, I must say, Bo and Jon make two peas in a pod. Beautiful together,
aren't they?

Daisy.

 

I must have missed it. How long did you say it would be before
SolidWorks gives users quick and easy control over every SolidWorks
part and assembly that they come in contact with?

Jon Banquer
San Diego,CA

 

That's coming in a service pack next week,, jon, stay on top of
something other than your mother.

I missed where it was that you defined without using any meaningless
buzzwords what exactly you mean by that? Why do you refuse to be
specific? You're such a fucking waste.

Daisy.

 

I'm such a fucking waste.

Now it's correct.

Jon Banquer
San Diego,CA

 

I take offense that my name would be used in the same sentence with
Jon's.

Facts are what they are. MS has poured billions of dollars into new
initiatives and the big ones have all crashed. That does NOT put me
in league with someone who uses profanity & insults to mark virtually
his every post, as opposed to my posts which do not.

MS still gets almost all of its income off of server & desktop OS &
Office. Nearly all the rest have been a bust & the stock market price
reflects the stall. Gates saw the handwriting and has bailed and a
few other execs have done so, and the remaining CEO guy is only known
for throwing chairs and attempting to buy Yahoo.

Strategic Uncertainty is a fact of business life, where "we don't know
what we don't know", and thus we need strategic options in case
something goes against us.

Tell me in a simple sentence what Strategic Options SolidWorks has to
deal with MS going downhill on its OS.

Bo

 

Unfortunately I can't change my font size, or I'd make a large print
edition so your feeble ass could read it.

Anyway, SW is currently in production on both OSX and Linux (Red Hat and
Mandrake are being tested) versions of the software. They took the
resources that recently finished the Vista 64 bit work and moved them to
this project. Look for a result Q1 2009, half way through the SW2009
release cycle.

They have been spurred on by a couple of things:

Rhino recently did a mac version. UG recently did the same, with some
rumors about Solid Edge following. Plus, they had the resources free
from the 64 bit project.

Now we'll have 3X the problems. I think this is a bad movc. As bad as MS
is, its not nearly as bad as you say. It does work. Writing for all
these OSes can only diminish the quality.

Daisy.

 

If swx comes out with a linux or even osx version, I would wager that a
solid majority of swx users will abandon Windows
in under 2 years.

 

I take offense that my name would be grouped with most SolidWorks
users who don't have the guts to be honest and state that SolidWorks
doesn't give the user enough control over parts and assemblies
relations:

http://machinedesign.com/ContentItem/68359/HowwasthatmodelbuiltSoftwaretellsall.aspx

"Designers often rebuild designs from scratch rather than spend time
to understand how models were built."

"Have you ever had to edit an assembly or a part designed by someone
else, or change a model you designed a long time ago?

If so, you know how difficult it is to decipher the mate relationships
in assemblies and dependencies between part features. That's because
modern solid modeling lets users create complex relationships, without
even being aware they are doing so. For example, a user might add a
fillet, which generates relationships between the arc of the fillet
and the features that created the edges.

Editing models can thus lead to unpredictable results, such as lost
design intent or features that fail when rebuilding models. SolidMap
software works with SolidWorks to provide intuitive graphical maps of
model interdependencies. It makes editing models simpler and faster."

Jon Banquer
San Diego,CA

 

Well, I've all but abandoned my Dells, so I'm more than half way
there. Win XP Pro runs just fine on my Macs.

Microsoft has spent incredible billions trying to tie people to their
new proprietary standards whether in the OS, Office suite, video
container, sound, games, and their version of XML, with obtuse new
licensing claims for their open standards cooperation. The world is
moving on, but MS is not.

There was a time in the late 1800s, when a real good handmade bicycle
cost more than a typical house. Those days died with mass
production. I don't think an OS is worth a lot today, nor do I think
a typical office suite is worth much now, given the dispersal of
knowledge and programming abilities. I would guess openoffice.org's
package will suffice and for free, as can Linux, or MacOSX if you buy
a Mac.

My guess is the next PC OS to be a success, is the one which is
released and which users don't have to "fix" constantly, and which
don't put them through inefficiencies and "features", like DRM, media
players, auto-run features & similar BS that many users would NOT want
on his work machine.

Daisy's comments, which I assume came from SolidWorks announcements,
mean that what I have heard for 10 years from programmer's bitches
about MS, has finally resulted in real change afoot.

Bo

 

Someday, maybe a university will jump into a Linux style open source
engineering cad package.
You'd think a fair amount of the kernel technology would already be floating
around.
I suppose it would be most likely to happen in China or India.


On Feb 22, 3:20 pm, "bill allemann" <>
wrote:
Well, I've all but abandoned my Dells, so I'm more than half way
there. Win XP Pro runs just fine on my Macs.

There was a time in the late 1800s, when a real good handmade bicycle
cost more than a typical house. Those days died with mass
production. I don't think an OS is worth a lot today, nor do I think
a typical office suite is worth much now, given the dispersal of
knowledge and programming abilities. I would guess openoffice.org's
package will suffice and for free, as can Linux, or MacOSX if you buy
a Mac.

My guess is the next PC OS to be a success, is the one which is
released and which users don't have to "fix" constantly, and which
don't put them through inefficiencies and "features", like DRM, media
players, auto-run features & similar BS that many users would NOT want
on his work machine.

Daisy's comments, which I assume came from SolidWorks announcements,
mean that what I have heard for 10 years from programmer's bitches
about MS, has finally resulted in real change afoot.

Bo

 

How can Microsoft be blamed for SolidWorks Corp. not being willing to
give the SolidWorks user the tools to easily manage all the complex
relations that SolidWorks often creates?

Would it be any different if SolidWorks was ported to Linux or OS X? I
don't think so.

Jon Banquer
San Diego,CA

 

Everything I wrote was a complete fabrication. Just wanted to see which
of you morons was going to take creidt for it.

Daisy

 

Hmmm. Sentence construction is odd.

No one I know took "creidt for it".

Maybe "creidt" is what cretens give. Yahh.

 

bong-kweer, go lick yourself, you mangy, flea-infested cur.


I own you bitch. Don't you ever forget it. ;>)

Jon Banquer
San Diego,CA

 

hey yoni Ani metz'ia le'cha li'stom ta'pe ha'mezu'ian shel'cha
ve'laka'chat et ha'za'een shel ima she'lcha batachat be'li
le'hit'lonen yoter mi'dai, bi'chiat rabak, ti'hi'ye gever le'shinui.
He'gia ha'zman le'hakir ba'metz'iut she'ata lo yoter me'hakalba a
mas'richa sheli. Eim ma la'asot...

you know that you are my little bitch fuckwad
get your "Aunt" to translate this bitch

jon the jew don't know Hebrew...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

My Aunt doesn't read Hebrew either you fucking moron. Many / most U.S.
Jews don't. Suggest you go back to reading Winnie The Poo because
that's about the level you stopped growing at. What a schmuck.

Jon Banquer
San Diego,CA

 

More about your famed reading comprehension problems, eh?
Almost illiterate.