Frustrated with 2004

As usual, Sporky has pointed out a serious weakness in my argument. SW is a
tool and when your tools don't work well, whether it's the fault of the tool
or the user, tensions tend to rise. Lately I've been feeling like I'm trying
to carve a statue with a hammer. Is it me or the tool?


Jerry Steiger
Tripod Data Systems

 

bob z. is using (still!!!) swx 2003 with sp5.0
bob has had 3 or 4 CTD's with sp5.0 since it has been installed. each crash
was directly attributed the stress level of good ol' bob z. at the time.
isn't that weird? it's almost like saying the moon's gravitational pull
caused my hard drive to crash. bob z. just finished a really hot design job
and that is when the crashes occurred. none of the crashes were repeatable,
but each time bob z. was just designin' away - multiple docs open (2 or 3
assys, 3 or 4 parts, 5 or 6 dwgs, etc.)

--
bob z.
p.s. sittin in an angry chair...

"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©

 

you got good ol' bob z. with that quote. what's it from?

 

mr. zee,
Please contact me offline.

Richard Doyle

 

you got good ol' bob z. with that quote. what's it from?
http://www.lyrics.net.ua/song/17668

JJ

 

uh-oh. am i in trouble?
No. But your mailbox is full (last known email address), and I have
something to ask of you.

Richard

 

uh-oh. am i in trouble?

 

i just sent you an email, but it got bounced. the email address you have of
mine, i can not get into it from work. our IT guy blocks that sort of
'nonsense'.
post for good ol' bob z. your email address... munge it or whatever and we
can figure it out.

 

richard dot doyle at cox dash internet dot com

 

Shoot, I was just about to guess Jimi Hendrix ("Voodoo Child")

 

As usual, Sporky has pointed out a serious weakness in my argument. SW is a

I too, used to upgrade quickly and constantly. Then I would fight to
get work done. Did it with 2D CAD & gave it up, & quickly gave it up
in 3D with Solidworks.

The one thing I admire about Steve Jobs above all else of late, is
that he realized & has acted on the concept that you must have a
vertically integrated hardware & software system to give the best
interface and stability to an inherently complex system, if it is to
be used by mere mortals. My Mac OS has remained virtually stable for
3 years, though I am now preparing to move to OSX, now that it is on
its 3rd or 4th major release. Guess you could say I'm cautious, but I
am very productive.

Software needs to be designed to be as bug proof as possible. It is
one thing for the software to not be able to do a fillet because it
can't resolve the geometry. It is another thing entirely for the
software to crash when you ask it to do something. Users should not
have to put up with that.

I know it is difficult to try to program perfect code, but that is
what programmers need to strive to do because users really need it.
It is all about productivity.

Uptime First; New Features Second.

Bo

 

I remember you used to post here often, Bo. So if you gave up on
SolidWorks and now work on a Mac, what design software DO you use?

Curious 'Sporky'

 

ROTFLMAO!! Very creative, Mike! 8^)

...

 

BTW,... What!? No "SolidSnacks"!? (rewards for users who report bugs)

... ;^)

 

Where's Scooby when we really need him??? Bring him out, Mike - he needs to
show up in this thread somewhere.

WT

Encryption =---

 

I typed too quickly and was misinterpreted. I used "it" and that led
to confusion as to what I was meaning.

I quickly gave up on upgrading quickly (no matter what OS or
application), everytime a new version or service pack comes out. Just
too many times now I have had problems of one sort or another, so I am
now very very careful about upgrades.

My next upgrade is a new Dell M60 for SolidWorks, but I will likely
install SWks 2003 first. I'ld like to see one more service pack
release before I try out 2004.

I still use SolidWorks, and enjoy it for my almost entirely prismatic
shaped parts.

On the Macintosh, I use a 2D CAD program called PowerCADD which is
quick, clean & fast. I use it for a variety of both engineering,
advertising and illustration purposes. It is particularly good for me
when doing conceptual layouts of new designs where design intent can
be 'flipped' in an instant for things like draft direction and parting
lines, since I have no solids to worry about. SolidWorks, however,
takes the bulk of the work and more and more over time.

Complaints about SolidWorks of late seem to really overstated.
SolidWorks is an affordable capable solid modeler. If we want to
create what come out of the likes of the auto design groups, then we
get the appropriate tool for the job. For the likes of John Banquer
to complain about what SolidWorks is NOT, is akin to complaining that
a boat can't fly. But there are coders in SolidWorks who are adding
capability to have a flying boat eventually.

Capable 3D solids CAD on the PC is not even 1 decade old yet, and look
where it has come to. I am impressed.

Bo

 

"For the likes of John Banquer to complain about what
SolidWorks is NOT, is akin to complaining that a boat can't
fly."

LOL. Come on Bo, time come back to reality. Just because you
have bought into the propaganda the many CAD solid modeling
companies have been preaching, doesn't mean we all have.

It's unrealistic to expect that imported non-native surface
geometry can actually be edited in SolidWorks ??? This
is akin to a boat being made to fly ?

It's unrealistic to expect that spline creation be robust
and allow C2 surfacing.... something many people badly need.
Industrial Designers come to mind. This is akin to a boat being
made to fly ?

Many people don't want a limited tool that is just a solid
modeler. They want a modeler that can model most real world
objects. SolidWorks still can't do this.

Concepts running on Mac OS X can easily out model SolidWorks
with it better thought out hybrid tools courtesy of ACIS.

www.cadsoft-usa.com

$995.

BTW, Bo. It's more like Avi Tevanian and Bud Tribble have educated
Steve Jobs.

jon

 

jon, so far so good.

Obviously, over a quarter million users DO WANT A SOLID MODELER and
have bought SolidWorks for that. I would expect changes in the
future, but most engineering design does just fine with solids.
Otherwise it wouldn't be bought.

Hmmm...I was sure it was the Steves who started Apple and developed
the concepts and not the Ts.

Bo

 

I think jb looks at it like a political spammer.

"If I just post/email/talk enough, then my ideas/sales/recognition
will surely come, and I will be famous/rich/personna."

Bo

 

Bo,

You failed to address the FACT that what I'm requesting in
SolidWorks is not akin to making a boat fly. Further, to get
around the FACT that you have no answers, today you started
a personal attack.

Here, *again* are the questions I asked you that you wish to
ignore:

It's unrealistic to expect that imported non-native surface
geometry can actually be edited in SolidWorks ??? This is
akin to a boat being made to fly ?

It's unrealistic to expect that spline creation be robust
and allow C2 surfacing.... something many people badly need.
Industrial Designers come to mind. This is akin to a boat
being made to fly ?

Once you actually answer the above questions, which I have
now asked you twice to answer, I will further address how
totally lost you are on Apple and how out of touch you are
on solid only modelers.

Look forward to you actually answering my questions this
time. Seems like getting you to answer direct questions is
like making an airplane be able to do what a submarine
does. :>)

jon