hi there, in the office i worked last we were using microstation j and had a tool called "front.ma". i used i quite a lot to change the display order of elements. now using v8 i can not use my old front.ma anymore and am really lost. how do you v8 users send elements to front or back? or is there a V8 version of the tool. i tried using the "ws addW and "ws drop" keyin command already, but it doesn't really work for me. thanks for your help