Friction brake

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by John H, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. John H

    John H Guest

    It's off-topic, but I wonder if anyone here has got any sound experience of
    using friction brakes to accurately control the torque on a small
    continuously driven rotor.

    The application is a bit like a drum brake on a car, but it runs
    continuously and needs to give very consistent friction levels over long
    periods of time, independent of rotational speed.
    In a way, it's a bit like a miniature dynamometer.

    Regards,
    John H
     
    John H, Feb 14, 2007
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  2. John H

    m Guest

    The application is a bit like a drum brake on a car, but it runs
    Use a DC motor running as a generator as your brake. Wire the motor
    to a variable rheostat and you'll have very accurate control of the
    resistance offered. If you can afford to use a more sophisticated
    approach you can use MOSFET's and digital control to present a load to
    the motor-generator. This allows precise digitally controlled
    torque. Be sure to heat-sink adequately.

    -Martin
     
    m, Feb 14, 2007
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  3. John H

    John H Guest

    The unit is going to be built by the thousand for $50 cost price each, so
    that sort of approach is not feasible. There is a competitor's unit which
    occupies a niche of the market, selling for $1000 each which uses a servo
    motor with closed loop control, but most customers can't afford it.

    John H
     
    John H, Feb 15, 2007
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  4. John H

    m Guest

    The unit is going to be built by the thousand for $50 cost price each, so
    What power level are we talking about here? Not much if you are going
    for a $50 MSRP.

    -Martin
     
    m, Feb 15, 2007
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  5. John H

    TOP Guest

    Have you looked at switched reluctance motors.
     
    TOP, Feb 15, 2007
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  6. John H

    John H Guest

    It's for individual threadlines in a textile application, maybe 20-40W each.
     
    John H, Feb 16, 2007
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  7. John H

    Jean Marc Guest

    A gearbox and a propeller?
     
    Jean Marc, Feb 16, 2007
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  8. John H

    John H Guest

    .....speed dependent....

    John
     
    John H, Feb 16, 2007
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  9. John H

    m Guest

    No problem.

    The continously driver rotor you mention in your original post, is
    this driven by a larger DC motor? How fast?

    Funny enough, I have bit of a background in the textile industry as my
    parents were in it when I as a kid. I'm not anywhere near that
    industry now.

    The problem with your brake-based torque control is that too many
    variables are involved in order to make it work reliably and
    consistently. You didn't say what degree of accuracy, stability,
    repeatability, etc. you expect to deliver for $50.

    If you can do this electronically $50 is not a horrible budget.
    Mechanically? Well, it depends on a great many variables.

    -Martin
     
    m, Feb 17, 2007
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  10. John H

    Ed Guest

    The motor isn't a bad approach and if the application only requires
    very small motors, (ie.one per thread) this may not be as expensive as
    one may think. Otherwise, I have seen cardboard spools used with
    adjustable spring tension fairly successfully in the printing
    industry. But, small DC motors with individual potentiameters could
    be as inexpensive as $5 per axis, (estimate with lots of assumptions)
    and is considerably more elegant.

    Edt
     
    Ed, Feb 17, 2007
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