Frequent crashes, what to look for?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by whit, Jul 14, 2005.

  1. whit

    whit Guest

    I'm running SW2005sp3.1 on WinXPproSP1, 2gb ram, 45Gb of free space on
    an 80Gb HD. All files are local, saved to the network frequently.

    A lot more recently, in the past couple months, it's been crashing, no
    apparent rhyme or reason, I could be doing almost anything from editing
    a part to moving a note in a drawing, just boom- gone.

    Other than cleaning out Temp folders, what sort of other things should I
    look for to help aleviate this problem, SWX *used* to run for months
    between crashes, now it's almost daily.

    I was hoping updating the video driver would help, but it just crashed
    again... :-(

    Thanks
     
    whit, Jul 14, 2005
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  2. whit

    lmar Guest

    Check out the latest edition of SW Express.
    Thought I say an article in it regarding this issue (See bottom right
    corner).

    Deleted my email link and I can't find the latest edition on the SW
    website.

    Len
     
    lmar, Jul 14, 2005
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  3. whit

    whit Guest

    Thanks for the pointer, the July '05 has a pretty good atricle, I'll
    check it out after lunch.

    Whit
     
    whit, Jul 14, 2005
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  4. whit

    TOP Guest

    The July Article is pretty good. If you plan to reinstall SW then the
    March article will help. The first thing that came to mind is deleting
    the hidden temp files SW writes.

    How does SW do on benchmarks like SpecAPC? That can sometimes turn up
    flaky hardware. See below.

    www.engtran.com/SWBM001.html

    XPTC will help in making sure XP is up and humming correctly.

    http://www.tweakguides.com/XPTC.html
     
    TOP, Jul 14, 2005
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  5. whit

    whit Guest

    I ran Mikes Ship-in-a-Bottle, slowest time was ~32.2 sec, fastest ~24.4 for
    50 cycles.

    I did the Star 2.1, Level 5, 51.83 sec, rebuild in 4.31 sec

    I'm DL'ing the SPECapc, at 131Mb just what the heck is this?

    Thanks
     
    whit, Jul 14, 2005
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  6. whit

    TOP Guest

    What is your CPU chip?

    In your case SpecAPC will thrash your system for an extended period.
    SpecAPC is one of the oldest benchmarks around. It changes from year to
    year though. It generally takes some time to run and it is primarily
    graphics oriented. The advantage for you is that it will stress your
    system over time so that if there is a flaky power supply, memory, cpu,
    etc. that are affected by built up heat you may only get through 1 or 2
    iterations of the test instead of all 5.

    Benchmarking won't always show why you crash, but it will eliminate
    some types of hardware problems as the culprit.
     
    TOP, Jul 14, 2005
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  7. whit

    whit Guest

    AMD Opteron 148. The numbers looks pretty good IMO, I suspect it's just
    something gone a bit flaky in SWX, maybe its time I upped to WinXP sp2...

    Thanks for the info...
     
    whit, Jul 14, 2005
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  8. whit

    TOP Guest

    Maybe, but go through XPTC procedures first.
     
    TOP, Jul 14, 2005
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  9. whit

    whit Guest

    Will do, our internet was pretty slow earlier, I'll DL it at home and
    bring it in...
     
    whit, Jul 14, 2005
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  10. whit

    Black Dragon Guest

    Shut the machine down, yank the cover, and re-seat *every* cable, card,
    memory stick, and of course, the cpu...
     
    Black Dragon, Jul 14, 2005
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  11. whit

    Black Dragon Guest

    I wouldn't install anymore software until you solve the crashing problem.
    It's possible to make it even worse if it is not a hardware problem.
     
    Black Dragon, Jul 14, 2005
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  12. Try Matt's article "Troubleshooting Crash Prone Systems" in his Rules of
    Thumb.

    http://mysite.verizon.net/mjlombard/

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, Jul 15, 2005
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  13. whit

    Bonobo Guest

    I am a little miffed at the extensive debug instructions that float
    around all over the internet for Windoze. The assumption is "spend
    days reading my epistle, and then hours or days debugging the
    software/hardware with all this information you have just absorbed."

    I believe we would have a lot less downtime if we as users maintained a
    backup hard drive with a known good working state of our applications.
    If you boot on another hard drive and the problem goes away, then you
    have a real major boost in debugging.

    If we also keep all data on another hard drive, it can be accessed by
    any good hard drive with the OS & Applications.

    It would help immensely in understanding if we are working with a
    software problem versus the hardware box (excluding data hard drive/s).

    Hard drives are virtually "cheap" compared to the cost of days of
    debugging and fixing each year, so they ought to be used intelligently
    by any CAD professional to increase productive output.

    Bo
     
    Bonobo, Jul 15, 2005
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