force dimension (pro/e)

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by pk3, Sep 8, 2006.

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    pk3 Guest

    Hi all!
    I'm a newbie in cad/cam. I have a question, how in the drawing force
    ProE to set some
    dimension, which substitute those one program pick from model.
    I've tried switch @D to @O in dimention preferences (i've heard its
    working, but it's not.)
    The message is "This symbol is invalid". Any suggestions?
    Thanks,
    Tomasz
     
    pk3, Sep 8, 2006
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    pk3 Guest

    BTW i have WildFire2.0
     
    pk3, Sep 8, 2006
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    Jeff Howard Guest

    I'm a newbie in cad/cam. I have a question ...

    Being unfamiliar with a program, concepts and the terms used makes communication
    difficult so maybe it would be best to avoid additional complications and try to
    find a native language forum?
    Driving / Shown dim; no can do. Driven / Created dim; a newbie should always be
    asked: Do you understand why overriding dimension values is poor practice?
    In dimension PROPERTIES; replacing @D with @O (the alpha character) followed by
    the string or &symbol_name you want to show should work unless there's a config
    option that I've forgotten about which prevents it. If there isn't maybe there
    should be. `;^)
     
    Jeff Howard, Sep 8, 2006
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    David Janes Guest

    I think it's actually worked out pretty well when people write in their
    native language and invite answers in that language. It's worked out pretty
    well in Polish, in a couple cases I can remember, Italian and French, as
    well. The English speakers are left out but it's not that often. On the
    other hand, I agree with Jeff: non-English speakers seem to think (like a
    lot of Enlish speakers I've heard trying to speak another language) that
    they'll be better understood if they talk very fast and in short, choppy
    phrases. Not the case, I guarantee. Better, if you have a poor grasp of a
    language, to say "more" than you think is enough. If you repeat the same
    thing, six times, six different ways, eventually we'll get it.
    What I object to most strongly is people, who declare themselves to be
    newbies, coming here and telling me what pro/e problem they're having. I
    really don't care what Pro/e problem you're having. All I care about is what
    you're trying to accomplish, where you're trying to get, what problem you're
    trying to solve. We can probably tell you six better ways to solve a problem
    than whatever you've come up with. Or, if you're going through a tutorial,
    we need to know which one, which lesson, what page and what you think it
    says to do. I can tell you in a second if it even begins to make sense or if
    you've misunderstood it completely and what you've misunderstood. BTW, as
    soon as I hear about difficulties using the override symbol, I immediately
    think that someone's used a zero instead of the letter o (a confusion which
    some tutorials, including PTC's, actually point out ~ naturally, they
    wouldn't, knowing this, go so far as to actually solve the problem by making
    it a different letter, like x, which mo one will mistake for something
    else). Another point on this subject of using overrides: it is NOT a
    dimension when you do @o15.75, it is just text, a string of ASCII
    characters, non-parametric, literal, unchanging when the part changes. And,
    as Jeff points out, dangerous as hell; best NOT used by newbies. If you
    found it in a tutorial, fine, now you know what it does. But,. for
    professional use, be backed into a corner with no other way out than using
    the override symbol.
    We're still not sure he needs @o; maybe he really needs @s so that when he
    changes the default dimension sysmbols (D5, D14, R2, sd4, etc) to something
    more descriptive like boss_length, pilot_dia, cbore_depth, these will show
    up on, say, a family table drawing, where you want to show general height,
    width and other properties of the generic part and want people to know what
    physical properties the column headings in the table are associated with.
    So, when you show dimensions governed by @s, you will see the dimension
    Symbol names instead of the numeric dimension.

    David Janes
     
    David Janes, Sep 9, 2006
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    Bruin Guest

    Just create a new dimension. You must be using "show/erase" to "show" the
    dimension. Erase it, then create a new & then use the @o & it will work.
     
    Bruin, Sep 14, 2006
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