Flatten a solid

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by lcifers, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. lcifers

    lcifers Guest

    I'm looking for a solution to the following:

    I have a part. It's like a propeller of a prop plane. It's close to
    the same profile along the length, but twists axially. I need to make
    a model that shows what that propellor would look like if it was
    untwisted as close as flat as possible without distorting the
    crossectional profile. I've used the deform feature in SW but it does
    not work. I can change the shape, but the mass changes also. It's more
    of a geometrical deformation instead of a physical deformation. It
    breaks laws of physics. I know this is not what those tools were
    designed to do. My question is, is there a tool in SW that can do what
    I'm looking for? If not, is there any other software package that can
    do this?

    Thanks.
     
    lcifers, Apr 23, 2009
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    manager Guest

    I have done such things. I requires a working knowledge of descriptive
    geometry and a lot of patience. The project I did this on was with
    warped sheet metal and the accuracy of the finished part only needed to
    be +/-1/16". In other words, there is no automatic way to do this. You
    have to use the old methods you would have used on the drawing board.

    TOP
     
    manager, Apr 23, 2009
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  3. lcifers

    lcifers Guest

    Thanks.

    For this, I need very good accuracy, and the geometry is very complex.
    That's why I was hoping there was a package out there that could do
    it. I ahve heard a rumor that something exists, but have been unable
    to locate it. Any thoughts would be appreciated!
     
    lcifers, Apr 24, 2009
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  4. lcifers

    That70sTick Guest

    Blankworks, perhaps?
     
    That70sTick, Apr 24, 2009
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    Cliff Guest

    Consider a non-linear FEA package, such as LS-Dyna?
    http://www.lstc.com/lsdyna.htm
    http://www.lstc.com/applications.htm
     
    Cliff, Apr 24, 2009
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  6. "Blankworks, perhaps?"

    Forming Technologies has a range of products for this purpose and they are
    avaliable directly or as part of Vero Internationals progeressive die design
    package.

    JC
     
    John R. Carroll, Apr 24, 2009
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  7. lcifers

    manager Guest

    Just a dumb thought here:

    1. create a series of parallel planes that cut the twisted profile.
    2. on each plane create a contour of the outline of the prop.
    3. using derived sketches stack the profiles on a plane parallel to the
    original prop.
    4. loft (centerline loft)
    5. check volume as a sanity check.

    How many planes you will need is up to you. There is obvious deformation
    needed to get what you want. So what is acceptable is up to you.

    TOP
    Sometimes there is just no easy solution.
     
    manager, Apr 24, 2009
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  8. lcifers

    lcifers Guest

    Thanks for the many suggestions. Sounds like some good leads here, and
    I will be investigating all of them. I really appreciate the help.

    - Luther
     
    lcifers, Apr 26, 2009
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    alphawave Guest

    I have done something similar to produce a label for a bottle, I
    downloaded a 15 day trial version of geometryworks (http://
    www.cadcamcomponents.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=products.details_3d)
    which allows you to extract a curved surface and then flatten it out -
    you can then use this data to create a solid.

    For me it was a one off request - and I didn't buy as it was quite
    expensive as I recall - However, I think you can now do something
    similar using Rhino - probably for a lot less expenditure.

    Hope this helps,


    Kev
     
    alphawave, Apr 27, 2009
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  10. lcifers

    manager Guest

    Let us know what works out.

    Cheers
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    manager, Apr 27, 2009
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  11. lcifers

    lcifers Guest

    I will let you know how it goes. It will probably be a bit before I
    have an answer though. Thanks again for the help!

    - Luther
     
    lcifers, Apr 29, 2009
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