File protection

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Tomica, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. Tomica

    Tomica Guest

    Hi

    can anyone please tel me if there is a free version of a software for
    password file protection in Autocad. That is that someone can view a drawing
    but cannot edit it if one does not know the password.

    Thank you very much for your information
     
    Tomica, Apr 17, 2005
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  2. Tomica

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    No. Assuming that when you say "drawing", that you mean an AutoCAD .DWG
    file.

    CadLock is the only product that does what you want. It is not free.

    If alternative file formats are an option - post back for many suggestions.
     
    R.K. McSwain, Apr 18, 2005
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  3. PDF and DWG in pwd protected ZIP file

    N.
     
    Norbert Grund, Apr 18, 2005
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  4. Tomica

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    How does a DWG in a pwd protected ZIP file allow someone to "view the
    drawing but not edit it"?
     
    R.K. McSwain, Apr 19, 2005
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  5. Tomica

    SimonLW Guest

    We use PDF for 2D and 3D views. We use Navisworks Freedom viewer that the
    client can install to view and walk around in 3D models we publish for them.
    This way we don't have to give them the DWG unless contracted to do so.

    Adobe Reader 7 now supports 3D walk through of models when published (so far
    microstation supports). AutoDesk's reluctance to accept an industry standard
    (PDF) can really hurt them here.
    -S
     
    SimonLW, Apr 19, 2005
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  6. Tomica

    R.K. McSwain Guest


    LOL - As far as Autodesk is concerned, DWF is the "industry standard"...
     
    R.K. McSwain, Apr 20, 2005
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  7. Tomica

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    I read his post to mean "send a pdf" and a "dwg in a pwd protected zip"
    - meaning 2 files.

    Your answer makes even less sense.

    If you give the receipent the password to open the ZIP (so he can view
    the PDF), then he will have full access to the DWG file.

    If you send the PDF and DWG as separate files (with the DWG in a pwd
    ZIP), what's the point in sending the DWG at all?

    Screen captures? LOL - That's about the most desparate measure I have
    heard of.
    PDF's can be easily converted to DXF/DWG files. A PDF created from a
    scanner offers slightly more security, but no more than a TIFF or CALS file.
     
    R.K. McSwain, Apr 20, 2005
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  8. of course.
    I could imagine a useage for e.g. providing a client or inquiry with a
    CD containing several 100mb of pwd protected drawings which you can
    allow them to use by simply providing the appropriate pwd of a
    dedicated drawing.

    converting the format vectors are saved in does not automatically
    mean, that the resulting DXF/DWG will show the structure (layers,
    attributes, real dims etc. pp.) of the original and thus is, of
    course, not much better than a vectorization of a screenshot or raster
    export.

    N.
     
    Norbert Grund, Apr 20, 2005
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  9. Tomica

    R.K. McSwain Guest


    My point was that PDF's, DWF's, or any other "secure" method is like a
    lock on a door. It will keep out the honest folks, but someone
    determined to "break in" can and will find a way. Usually, it's more
    work in the long run...

    It all boils down to the ownership of the drawing. Whether that be the
    electronic file, the paper copy, etc. If you are sending a DWG to a
    clinet/consultant you don't trust not to steal your work, then maybe you
    should find a new client/consultant. Define ownership up front. Define
    who will have access to what up front.
     
    R.K. McSwain, Apr 21, 2005
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  10. Tomica

    marin98 Guest

    Another option is to right click on the file name in windows explorer
    and change its property to READ-ONLY.
     
    marin98, Apr 22, 2005
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  11. Tomica

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    Setting the O/S flag to read-only solves nothing in the original request.

    This is a good way however to keep *yourself* from writing to a file
    that you don't want to overwrite.
     
    R.K. McSwain, Apr 22, 2005
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  12. as I have already mentioned, the PDF does not contain the structures
    of a drawing and thus doesn't need to be protected.

    Protecting it with the recent encryption options of the PDF format,
    "breaking" in is very difficult and time consuming and the targeted
    group, the honest fols, will not even try it.
    of course, but this is not the point. The point is providing
    non-client's as with your intellectual properties for allowing them to
    use them if you want to (e.g. if the have paied etc.).

    N.
     
    Norbert Grund, Apr 23, 2005
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  13. Tomica

    Roy Knapp Guest

    **********TANGENT ALERT**********************

    Writing to a PDF is what I do. But if this is not secure enough for you
    then I think the free market is telling you that your intelectual property
    is priced to high. Sorry. That is not going to be a poplular opinion.

    If your product were priced "correctly" it would not be worth SO MUCH
    EFFORT to steal.

    You think?
     
    Roy Knapp, May 1, 2005
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  14. Tomica

    Roy Knapp Guest

    How is this the biggest? Seriously, I protect files I send out. PDF is
    sufficient to my needs for protection of my labor being copied. When I pull
    my head out will I detect the odor of your insecurities?

    I know I am unfamiliar with big business, corporate buffoonery, but just
    exactly is it you are afraid someone will steal? ( I know, people will
    steal a wet blanket if you let them, that is not the point.)

    If someone is willing to go to great effort to steal something, it should
    be worth the effort. If that effort is very much greater than the effort to
    produce the product in the first place, then the market is telling us that
    the product is overpriced, and the person going to the effort to swipe your
    goodies COULD have just produced the goodies himself and had nearly the
    same profit. In time he will, and the market lowers the price.

    I am thinking like Adam Smith here, and he wasn't popular either.

    Not trying to get your goat. I do want to know what your opinion is. And I
    am myself unsettled about the concept of intellectual property. I tend to
    come out on the conservative side. People who think everything should be
    free are basically dishonest. With themselves. Present them with turnabout,
    and it no longer seems like fair play. Everything costs someone something.
    We have many dubious methods to shift the cost to someone else. Thus it is
    "piracy" when it's software being stolen, and "intellectual property" when
    it was a cad design.

    I do not pirate software, I do no download music for "nothing". I will not.
    At the same time, I have never seen a truly original design. It is always a
    new arrangement of old music. Computer software even more so.

    There, a larger load. More verbiage. Sorry for rambling, hope it was worth
    the reading.

    roy
     
    Roy Knapp, May 2, 2005
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