Feature palette and link to thickness

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by skrug, May 20, 2004.

  1. skrug

    skrug Guest

    I created a palette feature recently and have run into something that
    doesn't seem to work the way it's supposed to. I'm wondering if
    anyone else has run into this.

    The feature is for sheet metal and would be used on multiple material
    thicknesses. I create a base flange, add a blind cut extrude that is
    linked to thickness, pattern the cut and save to our network folder
    for palette features. When inserting it from the feature palette, I
    get a message telling me that the linked value in the palette feature
    has the same name as an existing value in the target part. It goes on
    to say that I can click yes to link the feature value to the value
    specified in the part or I can click no to rename the value in the
    feature with a suffix. I click yes because I want the cut depth to be
    the same as the material thickness. I click next in the edit sketch
    dialog box that comes up and click finish in the change dimensions
    dialog box that comes up after that. The feature is placed but the
    value for the cut and the part thickness are not linked. If I go to
    the dimension and right click to link values I see thickness (the
    desired thickness of the sheet metal part) Thickness-2HP} and
    Thickness-2pæ¨, which are both the thickness value of the feature.

    I could solve this by not extruding to thickness and manually linking
    the value or specifying the cut go up to next but I'd prefer if
    SolidWorks linked the values automatically like it says it's supposed
    to do.

    Steve
     
    skrug, May 20, 2004
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  2. specifying the cut go up to next but I'd prefer if
    Hi Steve.

    It sounds like you have suggested the best solution in your "up to
    next" idea. It will never not work and you will effectively get a
    link to thickness cut as this is the only option for the feature.

    I personally have found that the feature pallette features are not
    very robust for many sheet metal applications. For example, I have
    found it challenging (ok i really mean impossbile for me) to make
    linked-to-thickness features in the pallette parts translate into the
    main part. It's alot like what you describe - it should work, but is
    does not. I personally don't think that the name mapping really
    considers that the common names are the special sheet metal reserved
    "Thickness" which should be handles specially, but is not.

    You link to thickness sounds like the best move because it will get
    you what you need, or almost what you need (less the assurance that
    things work as advertised).

    Regards,

    SMA
     
    Sean-Michael Adams, May 21, 2004
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  3. skrug

    Keven Roche Guest

    Hi Steve,
    We use a CNC punch press and I have modeled all our punches as either
    forming tools (such as embosses and louvers) or library features (actual
    punches)?

    Which are you trying to do? What I am not following is the link to
    thickness.

    Anyway a couple of things that might help

    If it's not a forming tool then the thickness of your feature is redundant
    until you drag it into the sheet metal part (it's not a sheet metal part
    itself). When it is dragged into the sheet metal part it adapts to the
    thickness of the sheet metal part. This is achieved by using (as you said)
    the "UP TO NEXT" when you create the feature which is accurate. You are
    telling Solidworks to adapt your feature to the existing thickness of the
    sheet metal part it is dragged and dropped into, and it is linked itself.
    So if you change the base extrude and the thickness it will adapt.

    If it's a forming tool then in all likely hood it was purchased with a
    particular material thickness in mind and will react differently when used
    in various sheet thicknesses. But if memory serves me correctly thickness
    again is adapted and only the formed radius need to be addressed. Easiest
    way to create formed parts is modify the samples provided with the
    solidworks install.

    Hope this helps

    Keven
     
    Keven Roche, May 21, 2004
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  4. skrug

    TheTick Guest

    I've given up on getting this to work. I just add the links manually now.
     
    TheTick, May 21, 2004
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  5. skrug

    skrug Guest

    Thanks for the comments. To answer Keven's question I made this as a
    library feature not a forming tool. It's a mounting hole pattern so
    one tool would punch the material multiple times. I can (and will
    have to) use up to next but generally prefer to use linked values.
    I've found it to be better because part geometry can change resulting
    in "next" not being the material thickness. Since SolidWorks says it
    will link the values I guess it's just another case of the software
    promising a dollar and delivering 75 cents.

    Steve
     
    skrug, May 24, 2004
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