Feature Manager Madness

Help with the feature manager
What does it mean when a sketch isn't "within" it's parent feature?

http://www.jacobsdesigns.com/sw2004_featuremanager.htm

 

Don't know for sure, but my guess would be that it was ALSO used for
something else. Just a guess, though.

WT

 

I can pretty much guarantee that would be some kind of feature manager
folder bug. Before you try to fix it save the part & send it along with the
screen shot to your VAR to have them send to solidworks for them to generate
an SPR. Then try to fix it -- possibly delete the folder & recreate?
possibly edit definition & rebuild? possibly delete the feature & reextrude
the cut? But either way what you have there is not supposed to happen so
make sure that it gets sent to SOlidworks as it may be the seed of a larger
problem noone else has found yet. That looks scary.

good luck.

Steve Tietz

 

Thanks for the reply... but I didn't want to here that!
The sketch and feature are "parents" of MANY other features.
Deleteing it would NOT be an option.
I'll try to delete the folder but..
I have tried editing the sketch, the feature, reordering.... nothing
changes.

This is one of the most complicated parts I have modled.
I'm about 60% complete and there are about 650 features so far.

SW2004 SP0.0

 

Which feature is it (extrude, cut extrude, pattern)?

Corey

 

This looks like a problem. There is no time when a cut extrude feature
should not have a sketch indented under it.

Did you use "profiles" to set up the cut? That would be one way that
the sketch might be listed in several places, but it still should be
listed under the cut feature.

The first thing I would do is make sure you have a back up of the file,
then I would try stuff from this list:

hit ctrl-Q, easiest and most likely to fix stuff or bring the error to
the surface
file, reload
RMB, list "parent/child" relations
RMB "edit sketch"
RMB "edit feature"
roll back
suppress the feature
save, close, reopen

matt

 

It's a Cut-Extrude

http://www.jacobsdesigns.com/sw2004_featuremanager.htm

 

matt:
I did not use "profiles" or Contour Select.
Sketch214 is use to create Cut-Extrude94 period...
I haven't experienced any instability with this part as of yet.
BTW the part has no configurations and no external references.

One other odd thing is that while editing the sketch the Cut-Extrude is
still visible!
One could assume that the Cut-Extrude is created Before the Sketch!
Wouldn't this be impossible a Child existing BEFORE it's Parent!!!

Mabey I've got caught in some sort of time worm hole thingy!

 

Load SPR 1.0 for SW2004 then try it. Also save the file and close solidworks
and reboot then try it again see if it happens again. I wonder if you ran
into a memory corruption issue.

 

Thanks but I'm waiting for SP2.1?
I have shut down the computer...no luck
It's time I contact the VAR ...

 

That can happen if you have the "move/size features" turned on, but it
shouldn't cause the funky order thing.

Did you try deleting the folder? After Philippe's comments, that could
be a culprit.

 

Deleting the folder did not change anything!

 

Yeah, I've seen it before. If you can save it and have it still show
this behavior, definitely worth sending.

When I first saw this it reminded me of some interesting quirks with
shared sketches and rollback or reorganizing that sketch or it's "step"
children (that is, sketch features below the earlier sketch, especially
sketches in composite curves).

Maybe we need "Bastard" sketches and features!

Otherwise, you have witnessed the "immaculate conception" feature!?

... 8^)

 

www.cadml.com offers free utilities that let you represent all features
parent/child relations as graphs.
Look at http://www.cadml.com/test.SLDPRT.xml.png for an example
The tools are not (yet) easy to install & use...

 

Sure! It's brand new stuff...
I suspect come chars to be forbidden either in XML or in GraphViz.