I'm having trouble finding any information on expressing certain VBA constants in vlisp. I have found in the Apropos results items like vlax-vbOK and vlax-vbNull, but what I need are the equivalents for vbRed, vbWhite, and vbBlack. I'd settle for expressing these items as their true values, but I'm not even sure how to do that, given that they seem to be numbers seperated by commas (ie. 255,0,0). Below is the code I'm trying to resolve. (vla-put-TextWinBackgrndColor (vla-get-Display (vla-get-Preferences (vlax-get-acad-object))) vbRed) I've tried expressing vbRed as vlax-vbRed, :vlax-vbRed, and (list 255 0 0). None have worked. Any ideas? Jason