Existence Followup

Discussion in 'Pro/Engineer & Creo Elements/Pro' started by mnmca, Nov 21, 2006.

  1. mnmca

    mnmca Guest

    I have decided to cut the timeframe for my follow-up down. At this
    point it is clearly evident that the vast majority of people don't
    really care much about this issue. There were many readers, but very
    few actually wanted to contribute, regardless of the forum.

    This all came about because I wanted to help my (former) fellow
    designers. I wanted to create a robust and flexible toothed model of
    bevel gears so that whoever needed such, for whatever reason, could
    utilize this method.

    Why 'former'? Two years ago I was faced with a decision, I chose
    door #3. I no longer work in engineering. If you wish, you can read
    up on this a little at
    http://www.memagazine.org/aug06/departments/letters/letters.html. King
    David did some research and ran across this.

    I would like to know, if faced with a similar situation knowing you
    have a wife and three young children, what would you do? Honestly, I
    miss my former career very much. This is why I wanted to contribute,
    no matter how small, to the field. But, it seems I no longer have the
    desire, thank you David Janes. For, he has personally made it his
    endeavor to piss on the last remaining embers of my former life. How
    does it make you feel?

    I do believe if you truly want to help people (which is one of the
    fundamental functions of engineers) then you should go into teaching as
    well. You might learn something of value yourself, namely how to
    communicate with your fellow man. I've been watching you. It is
    rather comfortable, sitting snuggly behind your monitor and lashing out
    at people with your acid tongue. It is quite something else to do it
    face-to-face. It takes a very cold heart to watch someone wither from
    the inside.

    When David L. Geesaman was the wise sage of
    http://groups.google.com/group/comp.cad.pro-engineer?lnk=gschg&hl=en I
    could not recall a time when he was so procedural and thorough in
    administering negative comments. Without a doubt, David Janes is
    intelligent and knowledgeable. These traits don't make a person
    wise. A wise man admonishes with benevolence not malevolence. David,
    you wanted your name in lights. Well, there you are. Yes, he was the
    one who prompted this personal fiasco.

    Now, on to a lighter tone.
    <<SNIP>>
    "...that place where everyone, from users to in touch management,
    says 'what does this buy us' and finds a void."

    As far as toothed gearing is concerned, my focus, I offer the
    following:
    Why would a company such as Stock Drive Products / Sterling Instrument,
    a PTC PartsLink partner (https://sdp-si.com/eStore/), go to such
    trouble creating 3D bevel gear models for download in which the user
    can specify the number of teeth, from 2 to the number of teeth for the
    specific model. I cannot find any evidence of crowning in any of the
    models I downloaded.
    Then there is RCV Engines, for on their technology page,
    http://www.rcvengines.com/corporate/rcv_technology.htm, one can
    download a slide presentation,
    http://www.rcvengines.com/pdf_files/saeslide.pdf. If one cares to do
    so, check out the illustration on page 3. David Janes can testify
    himself that the gearing displayed was in fact created in Pro/ENGINEER.
    I had contacted the company upon my first site of this in an
    engineering journal. The engineer who replied was happy to supply me
    with the company's models. These I passed along to Mr. Janes, for
    his majesty to review. He never did get back to me on this point.
    <<SNIP (personal contact)>>
    "So, again, I'm the reductionist, the anti-romantic, the objectivist,
    the skeptic: why is this needed/necessary? make a case for its
    utility!"
    Somewhere within these organizations the decision was made, by upper
    management, to divert resources away from other matters to pursue the
    individual endeavors. Feel free to contact the companies to inquire as
    to why these foolhardy ventures were undertaken.
    <<SNIP>>
    "Better ~ hobby, gear design theorist striving for the perfect tooth
    form."

    Yes, this was somewhat of a hobby, to keep my sanity. But for those of
    you who had a chance to view the original text, you will recall
    straight from the beginning, "Of course no gear, according to Charles
    Cooper in his article Issues of Gear Design Using 3D Solid Modeling
    Systems on www.geartechnology.com, is truly accurate using CAD
    systems."
    I NEVER CLAIMED TO BE PERSUING PERFECT FORM!!!
    I just wanted to make a good looking, robust, and flexible model for
    people, I must reiterate, to use for whatever reason.

    When I had sent the newer instruction set to Lord Janes, his reply was
    equally narrow minded and full of excess rambling. I quote, "I've
    gone through your new and old writings on gear design. Unfortunately, I
    am a part time doctor, full time designer with Pro/e. I've taken about
    10 PTC-authored courses on Pro/e and have done another couple dozen
    tutorials on the same. The job you've so generously offered ~ to be
    your technical advisor and editor ~ is worthy of a professional making
    $80k/annum. The job was made definitely worthy of such a princely sum
    by the fact that I'm faced with merging the information from two
    documents to obtain all the information necessary for an adequate
    tryout." The two documents stand separately. Apparently this was
    lost on him.

    Mark out.
     
    mnmca, Nov 21, 2006
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  2. mnmca

    dgeesaman Guest

    Yes, there was a time I wrote a great deal more on this newsgroup, but
    I don't recall any incidents relating to negative comments. Can you
    explain?
    Me or Mr Janes?

    Dave
     
    dgeesaman, Nov 22, 2006
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