Drag and Coefficent of Drag in Cosmosfloworks

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by jameszhao00, May 25, 2006.

  1. jameszhao00

    jameszhao00 Guest

    Hi
    For one of my projects, I need to test various shapes and designs in
    order to caculate Drag and Coefficent of drag. I see an option in
    Fluent such as Monitor -> Forces Cd(coeff of drag), but I do not see
    any options like this in cosmosfloworks. Please tell me if one in
    avaliable in cosmosworks, and if not, any alternatives.

    Thanks for all the help.
    James :)
     
    jameszhao00, May 25, 2006
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  2. jameszhao00

    Ben Eadie Guest

    James

    I have done this by taking the reaction force in what ever direction you
    want the drag in and then putting in a 'equation goal' (look this up in
    the cosmos help) using the formula

    D = Cd * 1/2 * rho * v^2 * S where rho is the density of air, v is the
    velocity of the fluid, D is the drag force and S is the cross sectional
    area seen perpendicular from the direction of flow. So you will need to
    rearrange this to get Cd, so you have

    Cd = (1/2 rho V^2 S)/D

    From cosmos you get D (set it up as a goal and give it a variable name)
    next you need to know the cross sectional area (calculated using split
    lines and a surface, density of the air and the velocity of the fluid

    Punch all this into a equation goal and Viola! It will spit it out into
    a spreadsheet nicely.

    I cannot send any examples unfortunately as I no longer work at a place
    that has a Flow license. This is just from memory. So double check the
    formula but I am pretty sure that is it


    Ben
     
    Ben Eadie, May 25, 2006
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  3. jameszhao00

    jameszhao00 Guest

    Thanks for your help.
    James
     
    jameszhao00, May 25, 2006
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  4. jameszhao00

    jameszhao00 Guest

    One problem.

    I think the cross-sectional area assumes a uniform shape. However, this
    is an arbitary shape (actually a glider) which is composed of solids
    with no 1 cross section.

    Thank you.
    James
     
    jameszhao00, May 25, 2006
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  5. jameszhao00

    Ben Eadie Guest

    It still has a projected area you can use. Remember this is only going
    to give you a ball park figure, there are many considerations to take
    into account. For an aircraft you will most likely need to include
    parasitic drag, deal with the full surface area of the wind sections to
    develop the figure more accurately, surface finishes....etc etc. oh and
    have one hell of a computer to do the calculations.

    If you and your company want some help, I could go into this much much
    further but the time involved will be too much to do over a news group
    or via emails.

    Here is my pride and joy of work in aerodynamics we have this recumbent
    bike down to a min of drag the same effort that takes you to 15 KPH on a
    mountain bike will get you to 52 KPH on this one...We hope to break a
    world record in a month.

    http://www.adventuresofgreg.com/HPVMain.html


    Also I have done extensive work on this aircrafts' aerodynamics and
    structural analysis. and worked on some gliders in the Czech Republic
    when I worked there.

    http://www.phoenixfanjet.net/

    You can contact me at
    www.Mountain-Wave.ca
    find the email and phone number in the contact link

    Best Regards.
    Ben
     
    Ben Eadie, May 25, 2006
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  6. Ben,

    You were typing faster than you were thinking and inverted the equation.
    Cd=D/(1/2 rho V^2 S).

    Jerry Steiger
    Tripod Data Systems
    "take the garbage out, dear"
     
    Jerry Steiger, May 25, 2006
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  7. jameszhao00

    Ben Eadie Guest

    Gahhh! Thanks Jerry, hope this does not mean I am garbage and you just
    took me out.... he he Love the signature

    Ben
     
    Ben Eadie, May 26, 2006
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