Does AutoCAD 2006 has a back door?

Discussion in 'AutoCAD' started by Cadalot, Jul 27, 2005.

  1. Cadalot

    Cadalot Guest

    Hi Guys

    Somewhere, I think it was an AutoCAD e-mag or web site, I read that
    version AutoCAD 2006 has a back door built in that would allow
    Autodesk, or any other person who could hack, take control of your PC.
    and that by accepting the licence term to install, you are allowing
    this!

    I'm not dreaming this am I ?

    Can some one point me back to the, or any articles on the subject?

    Is this true, and at what is the real risk from hackers?

    TIA

    Alan
     
    Cadalot, Jul 27, 2005
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  2. Cadalot

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    Hang around and wait for 'clintonG' - he will tell you all about it.
     
    R.K. McSwain, Jul 27, 2005
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  3. CLIIIIIIIINNNNNN-TONNNNN!
     
    Michael Bulatovich, Jul 27, 2005
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  4. Cadalot

    R.K. McSwain Guest

    Yes, you are wrong. The word "enter" is not in Sec 9.5
    See: http://go.cadwire.net/?958,6,1

    Quastion: If Autodesk purposly included this 'back-door', why advertise
    it in the EULA?

    I'll bet you watch a lot of the SciFi channel...
     
    R.K. McSwain, Jul 28, 2005
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  5. Cadalot

    Gary D'Arcy Guest

    Hi Alan,

    The issue was raised by Paul Waddington in the SMH ( Sydney Morning Herald)
    and was pick up by a few of the cad online publications. A reply was
    also posted by AD however that did nothing to rebuke the claims.

    We are closely monitoring this situation and what the software is doing
    (simply because we can) and yes there is concern that the EULA
    gives permission to electronically audit your computer. We suspect
    that access would be rolled out over several releases if this is the case
    mainly for the purpose of licence checking.


    Whether this give a hacker any more freedom or control is a
    debatable issue however when the program itself has your permission
    to audit your P.C then the meaning of hacker might need redefining.

    Personally I thought there would have been more debate over this issue.

    Most of the comment suggest that if you do not like the EULA
    buy something else however in most cases for entrenched ACAD
    users this is not an option.


    Regards Gary
    www.drcauto.com
     
    Gary D'Arcy, Jul 28, 2005
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  6. Cadalot

    Cadalot Guest

    Gary & Clinton

    Thank you both very much for your replies, I did find the original
    article that alerted me to this issue. it was

    Going Too Far? Autodesk Licence Terms
    May 25, 2005

    http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/blog/2005/05/autodesk_licenc.html

    And Clintons reply/ comments on the article were there.....whilst
    looking for information on this subject I also found that there is
    also the Autodesk Web Site Notice

    “A security issue has been identified that could allow a local user to
    gain inappropriate access to another local user's computer. This
    problem occurs in a number of Autodesk products. You can help protect
    your computer by installing this update.”

    Change the words "a number of Autodesk products" to nearly all
    Autodesk products would be nearer the truth.... check it out at

    http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/item?siteID=123112&id=5549329&linkID=2475323

    It makes one wonder if third party hackers are already trying to use
    this feature to gain access?

    Ok there are those on this newsgroup that consider Clinton paronoid,
    and I guess I too could be grouped into that catagory, but just
    because we are paranoid does not mean that they are not out to get us!
    (VBG);-)

    I am supprised that there has not been more discussion, debate and
    research into this matter.

    Alan














    “Most of Autodesk's customers don't read the terms of license when
    installing AutoCAD. This makes sense: if you want to use the software,
    you have to agree to its terms. Thus, there's no point to reading the
    license, because you have no rights to negotiate it. As Autodesk says,
    if you don't agree to the terms, return the software.”



    This article is the one that exposed that Autodesk has almost
    certainly built a backdoor into their software.



    All a reasonable person need do is read Autodesk's license and ask
    themselves how else Autodesk could "enter" your computer
    "electronically" even when given "advanced notice."



    Read more at







    This is of concern to a large multi-national company who are in the
    process of considering moving from another CAD package to AutoCAD.

    Any
     
    Cadalot, Jul 29, 2005
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  7. Cadalot

    Cadalot Guest

    Because when they use it to chack out your LAN or WAN then you can not
    protest because by the click of a button you have been told and given
    them permission to do what they will ultimately be able too.
    It's funny but look at SciFi most of the things considered by writers
    of these things come to pass, or are projections into a possible or
    actual future.

    Man stepping and travelling to the moon

    Ok in war of the worlds there was the heat ray - would we not consider
    that a lazer beam today?

    Space Stations - currently under construction

    I'm sure with a little thought that we could find many more.
     
    Cadalot, Jul 29, 2005
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  8. Cadalot

    stephanie Guest

    Um... I am forced to assume that you are not using any Microsoft or
    Adobe products? Other wise this issue with AutoDESK would appear to be
    just another similar instance of licenses being tracked by the
    manufacturer via the internet.

    The difference between access functionalities that are possible on a
    LAN and internet are becoming less and less. These day the only thing
    that separates the two is a strong firewall. I'm just curious how
    AutoDESK gets pass a good firewall that separating the LAN from the
    internet. Can't imagine that any business wouldn't have one. Especially
    now a days, when all the pundits are telling individual home users that
    they had better get a good one.


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    stephanie, Jul 29, 2005
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