Do you use blocks in drawings? How often?

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Sam, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. Sam

    Sam Guest

    At former employers I rarely used blocks in drawings, I can think of
    only one in the 6 years prior to my current employer. At this company,
    a job I took to convert them from acad to sw, they use tons of blocks
    sometimes 10 or more on one drawing. And they use them for the wrong
    purposes, typically they like to use a block to replicate a drawing
    view (for example in place of a section view) that needs to be placed
    on multiple drawings, rather than create that view on each drawing
    sheet they like to draw a block and insert that block into every
    drawing. I tried to convince them that was bad because that block is
    not parametic (they are still having a hard time understanding
    parametric, being acad users).

    So I have two questions:

    1. Do you use blocks in drawings, if so how often (All the time?
    Rarely? Never?)
    2. How do you create the blocks? Everytime I try to create a block the
    block gets scaled up but the scale factor gets reduced to something
    like .04 and then when trying to add dimensions or notes to the block
    the arrowheads and dimension values are all scaled way too big. The
    process I am trying to use is to create the view in sw then export to
    a dwg then import into sw (so what was the component edges are now
    sketch segments) and then make that a block. But it is not working
    very well.

    I have to admit I am a little embarrassed that I cannot figure this
    out, having used sw for 8 years and being certified but like I said
    prior to this job I had made one block in the past 6 years.


    Thanks,

    Sam
     
    Sam, Aug 22, 2007
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  2. We use a few blocks on basically all of our drawings. The key to blocks and
    SW is to create your block in a drawing that is at 1:1 scale, and save it
    out as a block. The way things don't go out of whack as you have seen.

    The blocks we use are such like a particular paint note, North, how many
    required, travel direction, "Detail of item...", etc. The scenario you are
    fighting is certainly an ACAD leftover.

    WT
     
    Wayne Tiffany, Aug 22, 2007
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  3. Sam

    Guest Guest

    We use blocks here quite a bit, (and to me) correctly. We use blocks
    primarily with tables. For example, a gear data table. The table is set up
    to with text boxes that receive data from the model (i.e.: $PRPSHEET:"PITCH
    ANGLE") We use an excel sheet to design the gear and import the tooth
    geometry and gear data straight into the part file when we're creating the
    model. When we generate the drawing, the block is automatically filled with
    the relevant data. I suppose you could create a drawing template with that
    info on it, but as gear data changes with the type of gear (bevel, spur,
    worm, etc) you'd need a bunch of templates. This way, we use one template,
    and just drag the appropriate gear block in. Again, this is just one way we
    use blocks. We also have a couple of 2-D drawing objects saved as blocks
    that we use with assembly instruction sheets for the Assy dept. For
    example, we have a Dial Indicator that we would drop in when a measurement
    needs to be taken.
    As far as making blocks, as I don't use dims in them, I can't answer that
    part of it. However, after I make whatever it is that I want of a block and
    make sure all items I want included are highlighted. Then right click and
    choose "make block". On the tree, expand the insertion point dialog and
    move the insertion points to where you want them. There will be a "block"
    folder in your tree now. The catch is that at this point, it is only
    associated with this print. To add the block, you can just drag and drop it
    from that folder out on the print. If you want to use it on other prints,
    right click it in the tree and choose "Save Block". Give it a name and you
    can save it to the Solidworks Library. (Create an appropriate folder called
    blocks or something) This way, you can use the Design library on the right
    to drag and drop the blocks into any drawing. One tip that I did find
    useful was that I almost never try to edit blocks as something tends to get
    screwed up. If I need to make a change to a block, I'll right click it an
    explode the block, make the changes and re-save it over the old one.

    Anyway, I know I didn't answer everything, but I hope it helps a little...

    Scott
     
    Guest, Aug 22, 2007
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  4. Sam

    fcsuper Guest

    I used to use blocks for drawing notes, but now just use a version of
    Lenny's CommonNotes macro for that. http://www.lennyworks.com/solidworks/default.asp?ID=20

    Matt Lorono
    http://sw.fcsuper.com
     
    fcsuper, Aug 22, 2007
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  5. Sam

    Sam Guest

    Ok, I feel that my stance on this is correct. They are trying to use
    blocks in a way not intended, to create drawing views that should
    instead be created using normal drawing views (projected, sections,
    details, etc...). Basically it is a speed issue, they are very
    accustomed to do a single drawing, using lots of standard blocks to
    represent drawing views, and calling it the "master" then copying
    that drawing, tweaking a few dims and creating a second drawing in
    less than 30 mins. They make highly repetitive products and the
    ability to "clone drawings" (as they call it) is highly efficient for
    them.

    So now on to my next post, layers.....


    Thanks,

    Sam
     
    Sam, Aug 22, 2007
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  6. Sam

    fcsuper Guest

    Sam,

    Yes, in fact they are doing it the hard way in more than one way. You
    can copy a solidworks drawing view as quickly as any other object in
    solidWorks, and it would allow you to keep associativity.

    Matt Lorono
    http://sw.fcsuper.com
     
    fcsuper, Aug 23, 2007
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  7. Sam

    TOP Guest

    Sam,

    We primarily use blocks for two things on drawings.

    1. Repetitive notes with and without text attributes. We have a note
    for similar to that feeds off the custom properties in the document in
    the drawing. We have blocks for revision signoff and general notes.

    2. Some symbols or illustrative sketches.

    TOP
     
    TOP, Aug 23, 2007
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