DO NOT UPGRADE TO PDMWORKS WORKGROUP 2007 SP4.0!!!!!!

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by pete, Jun 13, 2007.

  1. pete

    pete Guest

    Do you use Pdmworks?


    DO NOT UPGRADE TO PDMWORKS WORKGROUP 2007 SP4.0!!!!!!

    GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR VAR IMMEDIATELY IF YOU HAVE AND DON'T SHUT DOWN YOUR
    PC.


    You have been warned!
     
    pete, Jun 13, 2007
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    fcsuper Guest

    Pete,

    Can you add more information and perhaps link to a source making this
    statement?

    Matt
    http://sw.fcsuper.com
     
    fcsuper, Jun 13, 2007
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    cadmgr2004 Guest

    cadmgr2004, Jun 13, 2007
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    Dale Dunn Guest

    Dale Dunn, Jun 13, 2007
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    neilscad Guest

    WTF ...well only recently I said users dont need an incident like the
    Symantec one..<creepy>...wonder if Bo is still keen on SW pushing out
    frequent silent upgrades?!

    ...but apppalling quality control again...obviously no one actually
    does any meaningful testing on a sp build before releasing it.
    I suppose you can all be grateful this is just confined to PDM
    imagine 400,000 dead pc's...
    You all know this is going to happen eventually right? <evil grin>
     
    neilscad, Jun 14, 2007
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    Dale Dunn Guest

    Well, when that happens, it'll be time for a class-action test of the part
    of the license which states that the vendor is not responsible for what the
    software actually does.

    I actually hope that never happens. If that part of the license is found to
    be unlawful, the cost of software in general will increase noticeably. On
    the other hand... Maybe I'd be willing to pay more for software that was
    guaranteed to work.
     
    Dale Dunn, Jun 14, 2007
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    Bo Guest

    Well, indeed, I would hope a Top Caliber Company would release updates
    more often BECAUSE they have a top grade comprehensive automated &
    manual testing system built on top of a similarly high grade
    progarmming, tracking system with top quality coders.

    It is starting to worry me that SolidWorks has lost control of their
    coding process (& there are lots of professors and others who have
    developed systems & methods to improve & control coding).

    When SWks warns that you that a PDM user could not only lose Swks
    files but potentially delete System files, then I also wonder if they
    had a coder deliberately screw up the coding. That brings up a real
    nasty subject as wacko employee coders have been known to insert
    delayed action bombs in code, leave and then use the "Feature" for
    some malicious reason.

    SolidWorks 2006 is looking better with each passing day.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jun 14, 2007
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    neilscad Guest

    400,000 x ' $25 ' = $10M
    10m / 200,000 p.a.(guess) = 50 new employees housed, clothed and fed,
    looking for and fixing bugs ( probably 10x the present no. ;) )...or
    of course out source to India and get 250 workers...

    sooo for $25 extra you can have quality but.. now that quality has
    gone up you can cut VAR numbers... and reduce subs..by..$50 !! (or
    maybe just $25 and keep the rest to give as staff bonuses ;) )

    :eek:)
     
    neilscad, Jun 14, 2007
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    Dale Dunn Guest

    wrote in @d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
    That sounds nice. But if it was the result of a class action suit there
    would be the cost of the settlement, legal fees, new insurance against
    quality suits (like medical malpractice), establishing standards of quality
    for a few million line of code (imagine the new license agreement),
    increased component costs (a lot of SW is licensed from other companies),
    etc. I doubt the increase in cost would be as palatable as $25/seat.

    Thw present cost of Windows might actually be justified if quality were
    guaranteed.
     
    Dale Dunn, Jun 15, 2007
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    Bo Guest

    You now know why I have said I no longer care about any one particular
    3D software and any particular hardware it runs on. The cost of the
    software and hardware pales in comparison to the cost of the person
    using it day in and day out and the significant output that comes from
    that persons work with the software.

    Right now I can stick with Apple's MacBook Pro and SolidWorks running
    on it. If things change, I'll move to add some other software and
    hardware as required.

    By the way, a long time Microsoft programmer has done a review and
    comparison of MS's .Net vs Apple's Cocoa programming environment and
    MS doesn't stack up well against Apple.

    The light hearted overview is on RoughlyDrafted.com @

    http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q2.07/985EEF52-D2EC-4CEB-BA8A-33D9C7A27F22.html

    ....with references to Hoffman's blog.

    Apple is making it easier for software developers to get their job
    done and done right with the controls to make it maintainable, from
    what I read.

    Bo
     
    Bo, Jun 16, 2007
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