do *NOT* install sp4.0 or sp4.1 (if you haven't yet)

hi all.

remember my post about relations being broken by saving in swx2004sp4?
after couple of weeks talking about and working on it, i've been told
by my var that it is due to a bug in sp4, that still remain in sp4.1,
because the latest sp it was released just before they contacted
people at swx r&d.

then, we can now be *sure* the problem was due to that, then i
strongly suggest you not to install sp4 because you may encounter the
same problem we had.

people at swx told us that it's quite strange nobody reported this
problem earlier than we did, but that they were easily able to
reproduce same situation and problem, then it *has* to be related to
sp4.

i'll summarize quickly for all of you that didn't read my previous
post: when in 2004sp4 you save an assembly, part/all of relations
between parts get corrupted because the system "looses" faces/edges on
which relations rely.

people at swx said that they started working immediately on this
problem to fix it and they'll release a new service pack/patch to fix
it.

hope this helps.

just my 2eurocent.

regards,

 

i've been using 4.0 since it came out, and do not have mate issues

 

Sorry to see your having problems with SP4.0 and 4.1.

I personally have not seen this issue. I hope they get a fix for you soon

Regards,
Scott

 

Doesn't refer to mates, Mate. As Gianni pointed out, you much see his
original post. That post's subject was "swx2004sp4 cannot resolve
relations if i change part's size".

'Sporky'

 

I installed SP4 and SP4.1 and haven't seen any of these problems either.

Richard

 

2004 Professional sp3.0

I had this problem with faces "changing" on parts that are put into
assembly1, then this assembly1, is inserted into assembly2.

The reason, was the due to the way that the hole wizard holes, were
constrained.

This was drawn by my work partner.

Old "BLOCK A"

1, Draw a sketch, 100mm x 100mm, extrude midway ,40mm, Show sketch.

2, Select the right hand face, select the hole wizard and put two holes on
this face 20mm from the front edge, 60mm apart and constrained, using the
extrude1 sketch and horizontal constraint between the two holes.

The two holes are constrained central between the top face and the bottom
face, and also too the extrude1 sketch and the right face.

This "Old BLOCK A" was inserted into assembly1, then assembly1, was inserted
into assembly2.
A new part was inserted into assembly2, and a coincident mate was applied
between "Old BLOCK A", right face( face2), and any face on the new part.

This caused the "Old BLOCK A", face2, to change, to face3, whilst in the
second assembly, which in turn caused multiple mate errors in both
assemblies. There is 315 parts in total.

New "BLOCK A"

1, Draw a sketch, 100mm x 100mm, extrude midway ,40mm.

2, Draw a construction line, on the right hand face, from the front face
edge, to the back face edge. either use the midpoint automatic constraints
or constrain 20mm down from the top face edge.

2, Select the right hand face, select the hole wizard and put two holes on
this face 20mm from the front edge, 60mm apart and constrained, using the
construction line.

This "New BLOCK A" was inserted into assembly1, then assembly1, was inserted
into assembly2.
A new part was inserted into assembly2, and a coincident mate was applied
between "New BLOCK A", right face( face2), and any face on the new part.

No mate faults anywhere.

This was a repeatable fault, which I repeated 5 times, whilst my VAR, was
listening on the phone to my procedure.
I am going to use the "Var can control my screen" service tomorrow morning
and will let you know what happens.