Funny old layer, Defpoints. I sometimes put drawing information that I don't want to print onto layer Defpoints (occasionally I have entities on layer Defpoints within a block). I have noticed in AutoCAD14 that if you turn off layer Defpoints, the entities remain on screen and can still be selected and edited, which seems odd. If you freeze the layer Defpoints (in AutoCAD14), the entities still remain on screen, but cannot be selected or edited. To take the entities on layer Defpoints off screen (in AutoCAD14), layer 0 has to be turned off or frozen. From AutoCAD 2002 on, the entities on layer Defpoints are removed from the screen when the Defpoints layer is switched off or frozen. I can't find much information on layer Defpoints in the AutoCAD manuals. Anyone care to explain exactly how the layer Defpoints works in AutoCAD14 and later versions? TIA