Death of a group?

I don't like blogs. I don't think any one person can keep one going
for long with new, fresh and pertinent material. This means wading
through a bunch of them with the obligatory signup for each one to
find something or just to be a part. I'll read them if there is
something of interest but not as a rule. They are not the kind of
thing you can watch out of the corner of your eye during the day.

I don't like the SW forums because of their pigeon holing. The NG
allows one to see all the action and chime in if you have something to
share and to learn if you don't The learning part is missing from the
forum format. They can be good on the odd chance that a SW person is
lurking and willing to chime in and they are sometimes good for
getting a specific answer. SW may have purposely setup the forums to
drain people off from here but that is supposition.

Eng-Tips is just OK because the format is treeless and harder to
search and browse, but I do like it's user moderated format. There are
also a bunch of tech support people that hang there because they can't
get enough at work. And because it is a for profit endeavor some
things of general interest to SW folks can't be done there like UG
notifications.

SWCAD at google groups suits me fine. That is the other place I lurk
because it not only has the plusses of the NG but it works with email.
I can set my email filter to "ring" me if someone posts so it is
argueably the quickest place to get an answer if an answer is to be
had.

But the NG has one big advantage, it is archived; there is history.
Can't do that with email or some of the other formats. The NG can be
searched, filtered, kill-filed and handled in other flexible ways. It
is concise and totally open. That is also it's biggest weakness
because it takes a commitment to not do the bad behaviour on a purely
voluntary basis and is therefore a window into the dark soul of man
(and women).

Anyway, I posted a link on Netiquette, a discussion that hasn't
happened here in a long time.

TOP

 

..if I were to guess, it would be Richard Williams.

CC

 

Blogs & BBS systems come & go.
They fill up too, slow & script kiddies
wantto post animated graphics. Some have
lots of ads to load as well. Nor can you
mark things as read.

 

Well put all around - thanks.

WT

 

Last-modified: 2003-10-04 (revision 1.14)
Posted-by: postfaq 1.15 (Perl 5.10.0)
Archive-name: net-abuse-faq/newsgroups
URL: http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/nana-groups.html
Original-author: Fluffy <>
Posting-frequency: weekly

We have a plentiful selection of newsgroups about network abuse and
related issues, but what is the best one to use? Here are excerpts from
the newsgroups' charters, with emphasis added to help make things clear.
Please refer to the full charters, URLs included here when available, if
you would like more detail.

If you want to learn more about network abuse -- what it is, what can be
done about it and just what all those acronyms mean -- Tim Skirvin has
pointers to more sources of information at:

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/>

Thank you for following these recommendations. It will make these
newsgroups more useful for all involved.

Network Abuse Newsgroups:

news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting (moderated)
"News.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting is a newsgroup devoted to
discussion of subjects related to the USE, ADMINISTRATION, AND EFFECTS
OF BLOCKLISTS in ameliorating the problem of unsolicited bulk email
and other unwanted or abusive network traffic. Any topic which is
especially of interest to those maintaining, using, or affected by
blocklists is welcome in this group."

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/charter/nanab2.html>

news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins (moderated)
"News.admin.net-abuse.bulletins is a moderated forum for BULLETINS OF
ACTION TAKEN AGAINST NET ABUSE. Appropriate subjects include
cancellation notices (EMP/ECP, spew, binary, and others), status
reports from individual systems concerning action taken against
abusers, results of tracking campaigns, "rogue site" declarations, and
the like." You brought down a spammer? This is the place to report
it.

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/charter/nanab.html>

news.admin.net-abuse.sightings (robomoderated)
"News.admin.net-abuse.sightings is a forum for REPORTS OF SIGHTINGS OF
NET ABUSE. It is a robomoderated forum, allowing only properly
formatted posts. Followups are required to be set strictly out of the
group and into the appropriate group in the news.admin.net-abuse.*
hierachy."

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/charter/nanas.html>

news.admin.net-abuse.policy (robomoderated)
"News.admin.net-abuse.policy is a moderated forum for DISCUSSION OF
POLICY and site-management issues related to net abuse. Possible
topics include Acceptable Use Policies, what actions should be taken
against abusers, discussion of third-party cancel messages, possible
actions against abusive sites such as rogue site declarations,
discussion of what is and is not net abuse, and so forth."
Crossposting is not allowed here, and the subject must contain some
sort of topic tag.

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/charter/nanap.html>

news.admin.net-abuse.email
"News.admin.net-abuse.email is a forum for DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE
ABUSES OF E-MAIL. Possible topics include mailbombing,
denial-of-service attacks, "listserv bombs", unsolicited and/or
unwanted mail, email address lists, mailing list abuse, large-scale
mailings in general, chain letters, "email viruses" such as Good
Times, filtering software such as procmail, and so forth. Flames and
other personal attacks received through email are not on-topic, unless
they are related to another form of abuse." Please DO NOT post
reports and sightings here.

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/charter/nanae.html>

news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
"News.admin.net-abuse.usenet is a forum for DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE
ABUSES OF USENET (as defined in news.announce.newusers). Possible
topics include spamming or Excessive Multi-Posting (EMP), Excessive
Cross-Posting (ECP), Usenet chain letters such as MAKE.MONEY.FAST,
forged or third-party cancellations, broken Usenet gateways, forgery
of another user, forged approvals in moderated groups, massively
crossposted "flametrolls", abuse of the newsgroup creation system,
general purpose netiquette, and so forth." Please DO NOT post reports
and sightings here.

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/charter/nanau.html>

news.admin.net-abuse.misc
"News.admin.net-abuse.misc is a forum for DISCUSSION of possible net
abuse NOT COVERED BY THE REST OF THE NEWS.ADMIN.NET-ABUSE.* HIERARCHY.
Possible topics include ping-storming, site aliasing, denial of
service attacks, and anything else that DOES NOT FIT INTO THE OTHER
FORUMS in the news.admin.net-abuse.* hierarchy." Please DO NOT post
reports and sightings here.

<http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/nana/charter/nanam.html>

Related Newsgroups:

alt.spam
A less widely used newsgroup, this newsgroup can also be somewhat more
friendly, or at least less confrontational, and is at least lower
traffic. Some posters may find it an easier place to have a
conversation about what to do about spam than the network abuse
newsgroups.

news.admin.censorship
This is a forum for discussion of all aspects of censorship and free
speech issues relating to news administration/Usenet from all sources,
specifically including the government, system and news adminstrators
and other users. This newsgroup is intended for discussing censorship
issues directly related to netnews, although more general censorship
topics do tend to appear.

misc.legal.computing
This group is for the discussion of legal aspects of computers, or
places where computers or computer users bump into the law, such as
electronic communications privacy laws; anti-trust; monopolies;
license agreements; look and feel copyrights; Secret Service; BBS
raids; and anything else remotely related.--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com

 

Posted on SolidWorks own forums in the General section:

"I had a chance to play with Solid Edge ST today; quite impressive. A
first glance it looked more like Solidworks then Solid Edge; (we use
both on a regular bases); having said that it's nothing like Solid
Edge or Solidworks.

I've opened and modified some of our old Solidworks parts so quickly
it difficult to believe I was in a different CAD package. I've been in
the CAD business for the past 12 years with Solid Edge, Solidworks and
ProE and for me this release just looks and feels good. Though, I can
see some push back from the existing user base because the interface
is so different from Solid Edge V20 and no matter how good some people
don't like change.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trashing Solidworks; they didn't become
the market leader by accident but this is a nice launch for Siemens
and Solidworks will have to take notice, which I'm sure they will.

-------------------------
Neil Thomas
OneCAD Solutions Ltd"

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/

 

Posted on SolidWorks own forums in the General section:

"I had a chance to play with Solid Edge ST today; quite impressive. A
first glance it looked more like Solidworks then Solid Edge; (we use
both on a regular bases); having said that it's nothing like Solid
Edge or Solidworks.

I've opened and modified some of our old Solidworks parts so quickly
it difficult to believe I was in a different CAD package. I've been in
the CAD business for the past 12 years with Solid Edge, Solidworks and
ProE and for me this release just looks and feels good. Though, I can
see some push back from the existing user base because the interface
is so different from Solid Edge V20 and no matter how good some people
don't like change.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trashing Solidworks; they didn't become
the market leader by accident but this is a nice launch for Siemens
and Solidworks will have to take notice, which I'm sure they will.

-------------------------
Neil Thomas
OneCAD Solutions Ltd"

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/

 

jon_banquer wrote:
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/NewsStory.aspx?story=69473
"Pirate Bay four facing jail in Sweden"

 

John R. Carroll

Carol, no matter how many times you desperately try to shut my blog
down it will reappear somewhere else in hours. :>)

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/

 

Each time with less & less?
LOL ..... Convergent Series ==> 0.
We just need a pentagram ....
http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/c0/c502.jpg

 

I've never tried anything of the sort Jon, desperately or otherwise.
In fact, I'm more than a little surprised that Google blocked the original.
They must have told you who complained Jon so you know it wasn't me.

What actually happened?

 

Was just shut down. No notice, no you have violated, no nothing.

Hey, it's the America you want.

Give your lawyer more money. He still hasn't sued me.

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA

 

What can I say?

TOP

 

http://www.cadcamnet.com/

"The Hype IS Right: Synchronous Technology is a CAD Breakthrough

This week Siemens PLM Software showed its new Synchronous Technology
to analysts and press. Siemens calls it “the next big breakthrough in
3D CAD design since the advent of parametric systems in the 1990s.”
The hype is right; Siemens has a hit on its hands, one its competition
will be FUD’ing and following as fast as they can. Siemens is keeping
quiet on how this revolutionary software was developed, but we have an
exclusive peek at the family tree--a peak that may give their
desperate competitors a clue about how to proceed next. It has nothing
to do with trying to acquire one of the explicit modelers now on the
market. (May 22, 2008)"

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA
http://jonbanquer.baywords.com/

 

Almost forgot
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855

TOP