Death of a group?

Sorry in advance for this rant, but I feel I need to.

I really liked this group.
Since I switched to SolidWorks, I found in this group a constant
source of help.
Had my training on SW2000, and after some years with Pro-E moved to
SW2007, changing from plastic modeling to sheet and milling
techniques. So I almost had to learn everything again.
In the google archives of this group I fond solutions on almost all my
doubts about weldments, sheet folding, drawing etc. When I didn't
found, I asked and got answer.


Came back after a few weeks, and found the group polluted with spam,
flooding and trolling by a "clueless" user and his useless blog,
followed by flames by most of the once-good users.

It is impossible to find interesting topics in the bulk. The number of
good threads is fallen to its minimum. I guess lots of good users
left, as I am doing.

Thanks to everyone who, consciously or not, provided me and other
lurkers help or answered our distress calls.

Last one: can anyone suggest a good *moderated* forum about SW and cad
in general?

 

JB has been banned from Eng-tips.com. In his words, it's
"overmoderated".

Eng-tips has an excellent SW forum. I also recommend the
SolidWorks.com community.
http://www.eng-tips.com

 

You could learn to use a killfile.
Once done, a lot of noise will disappear if you add the noisemaker into
the killfile.
Cheers

 

I have been using the Solidworks run forum... http://forum.solidworks.com/
and have found it to be useful. At least the posts are directly
related to Solidworks issues and there are lots of knowledgable people
to answer any question you may have.

 

I've been using the killfile, and I'm still about ready to give up on this
group. Too many people are getting sucked into the stupid-fest every day. I
have to plonk people on a very regular basis. What's left is a handful of
useful threads among SW sucks rants.

The signal to noise ratio has fallen because most of the signal has already
moved to other forums. The SW hosted forum pulled most, I think, even
though the thread handling mechanics of that forum are horrible. Before
that, I was avoiding Eng-Tips because it also was difficult to use to keep
track of threads and what's been read. So far, none of the web-based forums
has even approached the useability of something that can be read with a
nntp news reader. Good grief, I'd rather read from Outlook Express than a
web-based forum.

Even with those difficulties, I'm about ready to give up on this forum.
Only habit and sentimentality are keeping me here, and that's not very
rational. It's too bad c.c.sw never had a moderator.

 

Now that I give it some thought you are right. Even with "you know who" and
his brother on 'kill", useful info is drying up fast. I guess it is time to
checkout the SWX forum on their web site.

Good Bye & Good Luck

Mike

 

It takes two hands to clap.

Deelip Menezes
www.deelip.com

 

Even the appropriate topics which begin as serious questions, requests
for advice or as information provided to share experiences, techniques
or technical information are all too often polluted by noisemakers'
comments and quickly degraded or, at least, needlessly diverted.

It has gotten to the point where it is simply not worth the time to
pull the hip boots on and wade through all the nonsense in hopes of
finding the good stuff which once was the norm here at
Comp.Cad.SolidWorks.

Sorry - I have to leave now...

Per O. Hoel
_______________________________________________________

 

I had an opportunity to talk to another forum user just the other week
having not seen or spoken to him in over a year.
His first comment after "Hi how are you?" was "I've lost track of you
since I haven't been checking the forum".
When pressed as to why he made commented on similiar items you just
brought up.

I hate to say "I told you" but you might want to check out the link.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp...d91a333?lnk=gst&q=len+k.+mar#37f228391d91a333

Note the date and contents and then compare to your observations.

I also had a gander through the archive files around the same time. I
found it interesting to note all the names of some pretty good
contributors (technical and otherwise) who no longer post to this
forum.

I've been visiting the SW user group for more of my technical answers
but haven't found a group that challanges my "CAD Philosophy' and the
way I do things. It was nice to see other peoples perspective on the
same problem.

Take care.

Len



in advance for this rant, but I feel I need to.> > I really liked this
group.> Since I switched to SolidWorks, I found in this group a
constant> source of help.> Had my training on SW2000, and after some
years with Pro-E moved to> SW2007, changing from plastic modeling to
sheet and milling> techniques. So I almost had to learn everything
again.> In the google archives of this group I fond solutions on
almost all my> doubts about weldments, sheet folding, drawing etc.
When I didn't> found, I asked and got answer.> > Came back after a few
weeks, and found the group polluted with spam,> flooding and trolling
by a "clueless" user and his useless blog,> followed by flames by most
of the once-good users.> > It is impossible to find interesting topics
in the bulk. The number of> good threads is fallen to its minimum. I
guess lots of good users> left, as I am doing.> > Thanks to everyone
who, consciously or not, provided me and other> lurkers help or
answered our distress calls.> > Last one: can anyone suggest a good
*moderated* forum about SW and cad> in general?

 

I would use the solidworks forum but I can't stand the interface, why can't they make it so we can connect to it with
news reader like Outlook?

 

http://sw.fcsuper.com/index.php?name=Web_Links&req=viewlink&cid=2 I'm
evaluating an 11th that I may add to the list soon. If you want to
talk philosophy, I recommend the eng-tips.com, SolidWorks Yahoo group
and the SWCAD groups.

List of 10 forums (including this one).

 

Is Synchronous Technology the death of SolidWorks if SolidWorks
doesn't have an answer? Sure looks like they don't have an answer.

Interesting to watch all the SolidWorks fanboys lose it as it gets
more and more obvious that SolidWorks is now in deep shit.

Siemens has a lot of money and it seems pretty clear to me that they
can take major market share away from SolidWorks if SolidWorks has no
answer to Synchronous Technology.

Lets not forget that Matt Lombard as well as yourself have no clues
when it comes to what is really needed in SolidWorks. The same could
be said for a total moron like Tom Brewer who has missed every major
shift in the CADCAM business for years. Keep praying that it's "ho hum
technology" as Matt Lombard claimed on his blog and you agreed with,
Mr. Lorono and hope for divine intervention because otherwise you,
Lombard, Brewer and the other assorted ignorant idiots have made total
fools of yourselves.

Don't hate me too much because I was so right on exactly what the real
problems are / and have been. The FACT remains that Siemens/UGS has a
much better understanding of the tools manufacturing really needs than
SolidWorks Corp does. I think it really helps that UG started as a CAM
system not a CAD system.

Lets get you and the rest of the SolidWorks fanboys to a sheltered
forum safe from me ASAP. It's going to get really ugly when SolidEdge
with Synchronous Technology gets released, Matt. I believe that would
be in a month or so. Thank god that many of the idiots who post on
this newsgroup and in alt.machines.cnc don't reflect what the real
world wants and needs.

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA

 

Is Synchronous Technology the death of SolidWorks if SolidWorks
doesn't have an answer? Sure looks like they don't have an answer.

Interesting to watch all the SolidWorks fanboys lose it as it gets
more and more obvious that SolidWorks is now in deep shit.

Siemens has a lot of money and it seems pretty clear to me that they
can take major market share away from SolidWorks if SolidWorks has no
answer to Synchronous Technology.

Lets not forget that Matt Lombard as well as yourself have no clues
when it comes to what is really needed in SolidWorks. The same could
be said for a total moron like Tom Brewer who has missed every major
shift in the CADCAM business for years. Keep praying that it's "ho hum
technology" as Matt Lombard claimed on his blog and you agreed with,
Mr. Lorono and hope for divine intervention because otherwise you,
Lombard, Brewer and the other assorted ignorant idiots have made total
fools of yourselves.

Don't hate me too much because I was so right on exactly what the real
problems are / and have been. The FACT remains that Siemens/UGS has a
much better understanding of the tools manufacturing really needs than
SolidWorks Corp does. I think it really helps that UG started as a CAM
system not a CAD system.

Lets get you and the rest of the SolidWorks fanboys to a sheltered
forum safe from me ASAP. It's going to get really ugly when SolidEdge
with Synchronous Technology gets released, Matt. I believe that would
be in a month or so. Thank god that many of the idiots who post on
this newsgroup and in alt.machines.cnc don't reflect what the real
world wants and needs.

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA

 

I'm glad that the dumper of all this bs is depositing most of it on his
own blog. (That's similar to crapping in your own messkit.)

gk

 

Is Synchronous Technology the death of SolidWorks if SolidWorks
doesn't have an answer? Sure looks like they don't have an answer.

Interesting to watch all the SolidWorks fanboys lose it as it gets
more and more obvious that SolidWorks is now in deep shit.

Siemens has a lot of money and it seems pretty clear to me that they
can take major market share away from SolidWorks if SolidWorks has no
answer to Synchronous Technology.

Lets not forget that Matt Lombard as well as yourself have no clues
when it comes to what is really needed in SolidWorks. The same could
be said for a total moron like Tom Brewer who has missed every major
shift in the CADCAM business for years. Keep praying that it's "ho hum
technology" as Matt Lombard claimed on his blog and you agreed with,
Mr. Lorono and hope for divine intervention because otherwise you,
Lombard, Brewer and the other assorted ignorant idiots have made total
fools of yourselves.

Don't hate me too much because I was so right on exactly what the real
problems are / and have been. The FACT remains that Siemens/UGS has a
much better understanding of the tools manufacturing really needs than
SolidWorks Corp does. I think it really helps that UG started as a CAM
system not a CAD system.

Lets get you and the rest of the SolidWorks fanboys to a sheltered
forum safe from me ASAP. It's going to get really ugly when SolidEdge
with Synchronous Technology gets released, Matt. I believe that would
be in a month or so. Thank god that many of the idiots who post on
this newsgroup and in alt.machines.cnc don't reflect what the real
world wants and needs.

Jon Banquer
San Diego, CA

 

I read the groups with Google, so no killfile allowed.

no, I can't use a newsreader since I usually read this group from lot
of different places and I don't have admin rights on all the PCs.

 

Kill file works fine for me, even if I may have added some that usefuly
contribute.
The level of noise is really low, and I can see the filtering as OE loads
only half of the new messages.

 

I see you got the point of this thread, man...

What about ignoring him now?

I think everyone here, except him, knows that
1. marketbabble is not a reason to buy expensive and untested software
2. moving from a CAD to another is an expensive action, and should be
taken only in exceptional conditions
3. after all, the greatest difference is not "what a software can do",
but "what you can do with that software". And training costs real
bucks.


JR
giving C.C.SW a last chance

 

Clueless is a bit overdue for another psychic meltdown.
After one he usually vanishes for months.

 

Tell us, in YOUR OWN WORDS, exactly how YOU use it
(& "Synchronous Technology") in YOUR day to day
*manufacturing*.

Dare you.

SW is a CAD system, you idiot !!!
Don't you get that YET?

It is NOT for "manufacturing".

GIGO. As usual.