I'm stumped. Take a cylinder with a hole through the center. Plunge an endmill into the cylindrical surface radially, then do a helical cut out of the flat end of the part by turning the part and moving the endmill along the axis of the cylinder. On the initial plunge, the centerline of the tool is right on the flat end of the cylinder. The problem I'm having is getting the helical cam ramp face to be tangent to the initial plunge hole. It's not as geometrically simple as I thought it would be, having done other similar things in the past. [URL="http://www.frontiernet.net/~mlombard/dcap_torq_camvert.SLDPRT"]www.frontiernet.net/~mlombard/dcap_torq_camvert.SLDPRT[/URL] Any help appreciated. Matt