Ok I have created a custom menu and have tried two things to no avail 1. located it on network drive with all paths supported in search paths .loads fine but when I close 2005 no menu on rejoin 2. located all info on local machine with paths supported also .same thing I have checked for profiles in the startup and there are none. With the menu loaded I have created a profile and exported it. but when I make the profile current the menu disappears. Please help and thanks in advance Mack