Curvy Stuff 101 questions

Discussion in 'SolidWorks' started by Pedro Smith, Jul 8, 2004.

  1. Pedro Smith

    Pedro Smith Guest

    I had a couple of questions on Curvy Stuff 101, slide 29. Was the
    point of that slide to show that is easier to put limited loft
    sections at the points on the spline versus many more sections at
    regular intervals? Also, in the model, a sketch is named "predicts
    total sections required for smooth loft". What predicted the 12
    sections needed for the smooth loft. Thanks Pedro

    Many thanks to Ed Eaton for making this information available. Great
    job!
     
    Pedro Smith, Jul 8, 2004
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  2. Pedro Smith

    edeaton Guest

    Pedro,
    The point of the slide is to show that lofts are spline based, and that you
    can use sketch splines to help you decide where to put your loft sections.

    I wanted to show that if, like a lot of folks, you really insist on using
    evenly spaced sections, you can use a sketch spline with evenly spaced nodes
    (achieved in sketch mode by using a lot of centerlines with equal
    relationships) to see just how many nodes/profiles are required to meet your
    design intent. In the case I show, the loft would require 12 evenly spaced
    sections. Its a lot easier to use a quick sketch spline to predict how many
    sections are required than to try the loft with 8 or so sections, see that
    it doesn't work, edit all 8 planes and profiles to add a ninth, see that
    THAT doesn't work, then do it again and again until you get to the twelve
    sections that will work.

    I also use this technique when trying to follow two intent curves, like the
    top and bottom curves in an elevation layout sketch. I will draw a sketch
    spline on the top curve with as few spline nodes as possible, then draw
    another with the same number of nodes and see if I can use that spline to
    match the bottom curve (the line between corresponding spline nodes
    indicating my loft profile planes). Of course, it never works the first
    time - I have to add nodes and move them around until I get the right fit,
    but at least I quickly end up knowing exactly where to put my loft profiles.
    Also, I have to take into account the effects of angled profiles. Still, it
    is tons faster to take a little time in a sketch to get things right than to
    take a lot of time blindly editing, adding, subtracting, and repositioning
    loft profiles.

    But, of course, the real revelation of the slide is to point out that
    relying exclusively on evenly spaced sections like we are taught is kind of
    dumb (with the exception of simple models or industries where other factors
    pop up, like bulkhead spacing or whatnot). Even the inventor of NURBS
    surfaces told me that the concept of using evenly spaced loft sections is
    inherently silly when applied to NURBS - the whole point is that these
    surfaces are NON UNIFORM rational b-splines, not 'uniform' (URBS?) which is
    what you would get with evenly spaced profiles.

    By using non uniform profile spacing, we can take advantage of the math used
    behind the scenes to meet the design intent in the sample with only five
    profiles - thats a LOT less set up, and a lot less to modify for design
    changes or tweak when fine tuning a model. Less work and better results? I
    thought that was a revelation that was worth passing on.
     
    edeaton, Jul 9, 2004
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