Its been a while. I am trying to write an AutoCAD menu file for a toolbar. I already have a Menu started w/ 1 toolbar that works correctly. I copied this info directly below to begin editing for a new toolbar. Can someone refresh my memory what the numbers within the () mean? thanks Phil **PHIL_MISC **TB_PHIL'S_MISC ID_PHIL_MISC_0 [_Toolbar("PHIL's MISC", _Top, _Show, 0, 2, 1)]