Creating a repeat region for a family table? - challenging

I have a part that has two states - flat and folded. It is not
sheetmetal - that's a different subject altogether.

In addition, the part has many different sizes. For simplicity,
imagine an "L" shaped part with varying leg lengths.

We show the "L" bracket in its flat state on the drawing. There are
three table driven dimensions: leg 1 "A", leg 2 "B", and the width
"C". There is another table driven dimension for the ANGLE (180 when
flat; 90 when folded).

The file name is unimportant and should not show up on the drawing's
table/repeat region. We use a parameter in the family table called
"PART_NO".

I have tried many different ways to get this on my drawing as a repeat
region, each has a major flaw - albeit some different flaws for each.
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First, I can make a Two-D table and exclude the ANGLE column. This
has the most problems:
(1) I don't want to see the flat-state in the list. This is only for
detailing.
(2) I don't want the column labeled "PART_NO". I want it to be "PART
NUMBER".
(3) I want some columns to be narrower than others.

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Second, I can make a table with a repeat region for each column.
(1) I don't want to see the flat-state in the list.
(2) I can't sort this, because it sorts each column separately. This
wouldn't matter if I could get rid of the flat-state instance.

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Third, I can make a table without a repeat region. Then I can add
every single instance to the drawing. In each cell in the table I get
to pull the parameter/value from each instance.
(1) This is very labor intensive.
(2) The drawing has to load every instance.
(3) There isn't an easy way to tell which instance is which number.
I.e. &PART_NO:2 is the first model added to the drawing, but may not
be the first instance.
(4) New instances don't automatically appear and each cell must be
added.

Any ideas appreciated.

T Bennett

 

I have a part that has two states - flat and folded. It is not
sheetmetal - that's a different subject altogether.

In addition, the part has many different sizes. For simplicity,
imagine an "L" shaped part with varying leg lengths.

We show the "L" bracket in its flat state on the drawing. There are
three table driven dimensions: leg 1 "A", leg 2 "B", and the width
"C". There is another table driven dimension for the ANGLE (180 when
flat; 90 when folded).

The file name is unimportant and should not show up on the drawing's
table/repeat region. We use a parameter in the family table called
"PART_NO".

I have tried many different ways to get this on my drawing as a repeat
region, each has a major flaw - albeit some different flaws for each.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
First, I can make a Two-D table and exclude the ANGLE column. This
has the most problems:
(1) I don't want to see the flat-state in the list. This is only for
detailing.
(2) I don't want the column labeled "PART_NO". I want it to be "PART
NUMBER".
(3) I want some columns to be narrower than others.

______________________________________________________________________________________________
Second, I can make a table with a repeat region for each column.
(1) I don't want to see the flat-state in the list.
(2) I can't sort this, because it sorts each column separately. This
wouldn't matter if I could get rid of the flat-state instance.

______________________________________________________________________________________________
Third, I can make a table without a repeat region. Then I can add
every single instance to the drawing. In each cell in the table I get
to pull the parameter/value from each instance.
(1) This is very labor intensive.
(2) The drawing has to load every instance.
(3) There isn't an easy way to tell which instance is which number.
I.e. &PART_NO:2 is the first model added to the drawing, but may not
be the first instance.
(4) New instances don't automatically appear and each cell must be
added.

Any ideas appreciated.

T Bennett

Repeat Region Relations, Filters, and Sort Regions are the nub, the crux of your problems and mastering these, the key to your success. From what I've been able to do with these, they are completely capable of controlling the content and display of your repeat region table. AFAIK, this applies to 2D regions, as well.

I'm assuming your region(s) look something like this:
&fam.inst.param.name
&fam.inst.name &fam.inst.param.value

These are effectively two regions: doing Relations requires you to pick a region; hover over the fam.inst.name cell and one region shows a box; hover over fam.inst.param.name and a different region is boxed. Relations, sorts and filters apply differently to each. ..inst.name controls which instances are shown and how; ...param.name governs what values are shown and how displayed. The basic explanation is availalble from Help>What's This? and drilling down to the Relations, Sort or Filter menus. Maybe you know all this stuff like the back of your hand. In that case, while I much enjoyed your unusually detailed presentation and breakdown of the problem, if you did ANYTHING with filters or relations, this would be very helpful to know. And what the results were.

David Janes

 

Yup, my 2-D table is structured like you have shown. I can't say I
know any of this like the back of my hand. But I did try some filters
without any luck. Half the battle is trying to figure out what the
program wants. Then I can usually figure out how to get it the info.

I don't remember now what my sort/filter results were (I tried so
many). I try to get back to this tomorrow.

I'm going to play with this some more using the info you gave me. It
really does help.

Todd